best ord unit & best sub house unit

[Dante]

Not sure about the guild....

For House Ordos, the most suitable sub-house appears to be the Ix. I'm not saying they're the best, just that it seems to suit them.

[SurlyPIG]

Ordos don't have a "super-unit" like the mino.  The fun with ordos is managing a diverse group of units to be effective.  You can't win a battle with one unit alone.

However I'd have to say the most important ordos unit is, ironically, the dust scout.  Think about it, they are essential for virtually every ordos strat.  They won't win the game for you but you can't win without 'em (well you can, just not as quickly or easily).

The subhouse that works best with ordos would be fremen for low money, and guild on newb setts.  I just won a qm against the #2 hark using nothing but dusts and feds.  Granted, I had 3 camps and only 1 fac, but dust scouts build fast enough that you don't need tonnes of facs.

[ken124578]

the acelethal has spoken 8)...

[Timenn]

Hmm, but what about a Kobra in defense. If you have some scouts there is no unit what can take that out easily. The same goes for a Mino...

[Dante]

Deviators and Dust Scouts. Don't you just love 'em?

Kobras are really useful too, but I confess I prefer them undeployed so that they can move in and crush infantry. I use turrets for defence.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Undeployed kobras can drive on infantry while dusts and lasers can`t...so they are better against infantry undeployed, cos lasers are a bit difficult against troops.

But I better like put them deployed in defence...cos I rarely use turrets...

[ken124578]

a deployed kobra can eliminate infantry before its in their range.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Undeployed kobra is better against infantry than lasers...I mean...its only Ordos tank that can drive on them. While laser stand before troop and doesn`t go stright away.

[Bretek]

Well, it's not the best all-around vehicle. But the las-tank wins over anything but infantry. They are the best counter against minos.

 I fought a nice qm once versus a man who loved his minos. My las tanks were hurt, as I was stupid enough to group em, but one survived. He became a full veteran, and later I found a cloak crate. That one tank took on a group of 8 mino's solo. The best game I ever had. I ran circles around the guy.

 If you are willing to do the micro-management, las-tanks will always win.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

The laser tank only wins over units that doesn't much range or are very slow. Mongooses/buzzsaws/missile tanks can be a verhicle counter against laser tanks.

*Reads the "Expensive" part in the manual.* Ordos have expensive units huh?  ::)

[Bretek]

Buzzsaw's are no match for las-tanks. And mongeese are pretty good against las-tanks, but the las-tanks are fast enought that I'd still give them the advantage.

 I just played against the Harks today, and the missile tank was pretty good. But a 1st rank veteran can survive the first attack and kill it if it has at least one partner. Or you can pick up a cloak crate, take the first hit, heal, and take him out before he sees you again. :)

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Lasers, even if they aren`t good with infantry are tru good against vehicles. They can take out sonic tank and mino becouse of fast.

[Dante]

If I were ever so crass or mindless to play any house other than Ordos I'd say that projected laser tanks would be a useful weapon. They can destroy a shielded Ordso unit with a single shot. Admittedly they too are destroyed, but there's plenty more where they came from.

I like laser tanks more than APCs. Much more useful.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Projected lasers are good. They are fast and if enemy send some vehicles to you, they can kill them all often. But worse when enemy send infantry...but then you can wait, kill them with kobras and send to enemy large amount of free laser tanks.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

I like the laser and the APC both, Apc still rocks against verhicles and aircrafts.

And if they got some bars their speed increases greatly.

It is still unbelievable that alot of people doesn't even bother building apcs. And they are complaining about the Ordos AA capabilities all the time.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

I build them and put in base against gunships and ornies. Wth kobras in enter but not many. Still building more laser tanks.

[Dante]

I tend to use the AA troopers for air defence more than APCs. They're cheaper, and can fit into smaller spaces so that you can spread them out more.

[Bretek]

AA troopers are an ok base defence, but you need the apc's to defend your harvestors and counter attack theirs. Plus they are fast and more mobile. So they can go anywhere and provide effective AA defense for your units or base that is having problems.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

And can`t be killed in one shot by flamer. But about AA, I have AA around buildings ans 2 apc`s with some AA in defence if enemy use air units to destroy vehicles.

[Timenn]

But you can build alot more AA Troopers in the time that you build 1 APC, and then you have alot more of firepower...

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

But later I can use them to drive with infantry if eg harkonnen send flame tank or I meet mino.

[Timenn]

Then Laser Tanks are better, maybe somewhat slower, but fast enough

[louzynewbie]

AA trooper are still the best for Ordos air defense, cheap and effective.

But I think best Ordos unit is the Deviator. Fremen own the sub-houses.

[Desert_Eagle25]

I like the EITS,Dust Scout,Las Tank and the Fremen Fedaykin.

I especially like sneaking in the EITS to massacre defenses then sending in Dust SCouts+Fedaykins, followed by a last las tank offense(from my defense of cource, i'm not gonna spend the time building more las tanks)

[Timenn]

Hmm, Fremen are not that good without being on Arrakis...