Review

[Xano]

Ok, so I've done my first emperor map, its called Sadja Path and would like to hear some critics or comments on that. I'm doing another one and would appreciate whatever critics you have to do so I can improve.

Note that this map is designed to play in medium or high graphics so you can have the scenario as I imagined it, of course that may be something not too good because you may want to play in multiplayer but this map was made thinking about single skirmish battles mostly.

Please reply... :D

[spicy]

its sure that we have all kinds of deffent  8 players maps but not one of them is similar to fisher

the famous and number one map of all times. i will tell u why we need a back up map similar to fisher:

reasons:

1_ most of us are  little bit tierd of choosing fisher all the time we try to choose broken plain but its not balanced peapol will be happy to have another name as a new offical map not so mutch deffrent from fisher but improved it will be welcomed just to have another name on that list that evry one agree on

2_ what we can add to fisher is just a deffrent  views not very complicated just planty of sand and eazy  movment but it can have its own deffrent look

3_ it will be great to replace small  middle bases on fisher were its very hard to build a full base with normal size base and we defnenly we need more building space on all bases

4_on fisher not every  base have its own spice mine somtimes nahbers have to fight for spice personly i like that but we can even make a spice mine for eatch base

5_ we can have polls and requests  about what every one think the new improved fisher needs to be edited

6_we can call it  fisher2

[KALONY]

i tried to download, but the cmf-file is damaged. its verry small, and mappacker cant open it.

so long

[Megashrap]

6_we can call it  fisher2

Uh, no....just no. There are several maps that i've tried that seem to be ok in the past, but I always tend to just use the ones that oh, I dunno... actual game designers and programmers made. I can't even begin to tell you about countless bugs and A.I. mistakes, spice problems, too many buildings, animations and crappy build areas on rocks etc. on some that i've tried.

[Xano]

Well, seems like that map is the emperor holy one! lol

A map like fisher's plain is quite a simple map, one thing it has is small platforms yes. Well, about bugs Ive tried the map many many times so just one or two and not about gameplay but the graphics and pass almost unnoticed. Too many buildings may be a fact but as I told, this first map is more to be played in single skirmish battle, I wanted the map to tell somehow a story, thats the way I imagined it.

About a new map similar to fishers plain, how about limited spice without spice mounds?

i tried to download, but the cmf-file is damaged. its verry small, and mappacker cant open it.

The map is ok, its not damaged, it works and its not that small, in fact its one of the biggest ones ive seen there!  ;)

[KALONY]

well i tried it again....i was able to download other maps like the map before "wildfire slopes" it worked well, but urs didnt. duno y.

so long

KALONY

[spicy]

  scar are you saying all the fan made maps are a  failure? wel this map can be deffrent we can all team up to make it, not just some guy in a hurry, it can be a super fisher. lets ask appolyon and ra to help us they are programers too and can fix any bugs....we can ask players like gunwounds and you scar and doom and erjin to help putting the basics of the map like the infentry covers and the spice mines..

buldings?? who said anthing about buldings all we want there is 8 equal sised larger platforms with independent  spice mines for every base  and we  can just put  sand  on the rest of the map(well in an artistic way offcorce with some roky  partions just like fisher) well xaxa can be the exective programer  as he may have more time than gunny and apolyon and ra so they can make the plans and he can make the map and email them the resolt to make their tests on it.

comon guys it wont be bad and we can fix the bugs 1 by one. we need some change out there it will be somthing eazy and every one will take a part in it.  what do you say programers??? is it sutch a bad idea?? i mean u went far befor in making strange looking and unplayble maps just for the fun of it! dont u want to make a hit???  and enter your map to our daily playing list? no one has done it befor not even the offical map packs!!!  dont you want to chalenge fisher?? i know u can  so my part will be giving u the idea . the goal is  (super(modefied) fisher)/ just make a try u wont loose anything and ill make xano  do all the hard work. u just needs to help him, his my budy and will do it if i beg him (right xano? what do u think of this) are u with me??

[spicy]

About a new map similar to fishers plain, how about limited spice without spice mounds?

limeted spice??  now u make spice man angree .  in fact i was  recomending making a spice mine for eatch base just like sandy pass or spice bowwl  to  prevent early clashes for spice mine like it happens of fisher  wel i know what u mean by limeted spice u mean an 8 players knife fight. well its ok but u missed the hole idea of making a long games back up map similar to fisher and limeted spice will change the meaning of it

well one more thing i cant  download the map either just like kalony download currupted

[Xano]

well, its xano...not xaxa man!  8)

First, I also have limited time to make maps, Im going on hollidays so not really much time to do maps.

Second I prefer to do Single skirmish battle maps with buildings and work on the textures with photoshop (Im too perfectionist  8)) so these maps of mine are usually to play with medium or high graphics...

But, if more people is interested and we split the work even, I can do my share when I have time to.

[Xano]

It really seems no one can play my map...  :'(

Well, try to download it from here:

http://dune2k.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17666.0;attach=1047

Or go to the Dune Editing message board and look for the Cannot create file topic, the file is attached as sadja Path.zip which contains sadja path.cmf... Its the Gobalopper attachment not mine!

[spicy]

yes xano that was a spelling mistack but u do write xana  at ure online name not xano so...

and u are right i didnt say u will do it by ure own its all about team work so every one will like it

[alchemi2]

actually a six player map (size of a 8) would suffice as noone plays 8 player as it dont connect.

The main problem even with fisher is the start positions as often 3 players end up near together and one far off. and brokens problem is the central start amongst other things.

[pearlmen]

actually a six player map (size of a 8) would suffice as noone plays 8 player as it dont connect.

The main problem even with fisher is the start positions as often 3 players end up near together and one far off. and brokens problem is the central start amongst other things.

broken real problem is some base has harvester issue. in a base harvesters flying too far and get money in front of opponent base. It make playing some unfair. about central base on broken  I like when my base middle on this map. If you alch  enemy rush can stop early in ur middle base. the one will be stronghold late game. :)

[spicy]

yes i agree with alchemy. a six players fisher map will be better since most of the games are 2vs2

so it wont lag so mutch even, but the good thing is we started to get new ideas on this topic from players, which proves we need a new bugs free,  all agreed on, map like fisher or even better.

  is it impossible to have a fan made map with no bugs? like scar said?

i think we will be addicted so mutch  to fisher so if they make a new dune game we will have to take it with us

[spicy]

well paladine  good reply  i see that you are agreed with us.

the projec will be another perfect map like fisher  that we can playe it on ras server. it dont matter if it is 6 or 8 players most importent that we will work on it touguether  and have some fun. and if we dont like it at the end its no big deal the fan map list is full of trach can maps that was made for funny reasons like: the guild stoled the ix canon and sutch stuppied things that we dont need..  we realy need another good map like fisher but with more platform space and spice mines for eatch base

  and olso am sure  good players will have creative ideas to add to the new

  presumed  super  multy player map

  note:  hello  programers  sutch as mr.appolyon and ra  and gunny  can we have ure word on this

  we know u are buzy but we dont need this map by next week and a lot of peapol are willing to help

  but they need ure knolege  u can even name that map after ure name so it will be great if we playe

  fisher and (one of ure names)  map dont u like that ... lol

[Megashrap]

we realy need another good map like fisher but with more platform space and spice mines for eatch base

Well 2 maps that come to mind for build space, and more spice than you know what to do with would be, Gunwounds-platinum and Pro's Fight Club. both maps have more than enough of both. And these maps were played alot a few years back by FEW clan members. As I recall each rock was like a frickin Continent. These are not new maps, but they have been tested and played many times.

[Xano]

Ok,seems like my map was #$%& which pisses me off cause I downloaded it first and it worked!... My file works and I dont understand how it gets damaged...

Anyone ever playded my map? NO?

Ok, I'll post it here and someone please try it ok? It took me a lot of work to see this map "damaged" or whatever... This one works!

Thanks

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[Xano]

No one replies?!  :O

I thought this board was to help each other when possible, I think you would all like to see your maps tried to see if they are ok and work. Seems like you only reply to "known ones" and "long ago playing people". You dont care for newbies do you? But you all say you love this game...well, with no newbies this game gets forgotten even faster.

Im asking for a simple thing here...Can anyone please try my map (Sadja Path), which is attached in the upper post, try it out and make the work of a lifetime to post here a "IT works" or a "Still doesnt work"...? I see so much crap talk posted here and cant believe when its to help someone no one replies just because im a newbie?!

I dont think you would like to see your maps $#%& when It takes lof of work doing them. Mine has almost no bugs, tryed it endless times and its really a nice map, you only have to gain.

I may be a newbie... but maybe making maps I beat many of you for what Ive seen...

So I ask again, can someone please help me?

Thanks

[gunner154]

A map catering to SINGLEPLAYER SKIRMISH!? Wee, that just what I'd wanted. I'm mostly a skirmish player anyway (human players are too competitive to make the game fun, so far).

I will try it this weekend and will post my comments. Perhaps you could enlighten me on the story, since I have yet to download the map?

[erjin999]

Story ? Maps have story ?!

[gunner154]

Why not? Every place has a story, with or without a battle taking precedence.

[Xano]

Well...if you go to the fan made maps and click on a map you should see a thumbnail and the "briefing"..."story" of the map... whatever you call it. Its a description of the map...you know? I guess you never made a map right?

A map catering to SINGLEPLAYER SKIRMISH!? Wee, that just what I'd wanted. I'm mostly a skirmish player anyway (human players are too competitive to make the game fun, so far).

Many of us dont have life to play time and time again to reach the super veteran level to play online and sometimes just want to play a single skirmish battle against AI in a decent map. You can play this map in multyplayer too... Its there to choose...weeeeeeeeeee Anyway, the "story" is in the txt file so download the map and read it.

[Voodoo Daddy]

Xano, the board is here for help, however like you mentioned, some of us don't have unlimited time to play, I have all the maps from dune2k, and will download yours as soon as time permits. My business occupies most of my time. Once i play it, I will let you know what i think on this post.

Also, you don't have to be "super veteran level" to play online by any means. I am nowhere near the level of most online players. But when ever I do get a chance to play, I do it online, and players ALWAYS come into my host. Our community is small, but all good people. If you would try it you might find, as I did, that playing against humans is much more fun. Hell,I would rather lose against a human that beat the AI any day. Even with Appolyon's patch, the AI is to predictable.

[gunner154]

I'm sorry... I got mappacker and put the .cmf file into the CMaps folder, but it doesn't show up in MapPacker under the unpack tab. How do I do this?

[DjCiD]

Here is a step-by-step guide on how to download and install fan-made maps for Emperor.

Made by Navaros.

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1.) Download whichever fan-made maps you want from the following link:  Fan Maps

2.) In order to install fan-made maps, you must have the MapPacker.  Download it from the following link:  MapPacker Program

3.) Unzip the MapPacker.  By default, it will unzip into the default install directory for Emperor, which is: "C:WestwoodEmperorMapPacker". If you have installed Emperor to a different directory, change the path name to point to your Emperor Folder before you click on the "Unzip" button.

4.) Go to the directory "C:WestwoodEmperorMapPacker" or whatever directory you unzipped the MapPacker file to.

5.) Run the MapPacker program by doubleclicking on the "MapPacker" icon.  This will create a new folder in that directory named "CMaps".

6.) Cut the fan-made map files you downloaded and paste them into your CMaps folder.

7.) Run the MapPacker program again, and click the "Settings" tab.

There will be two Fields on your screen.  The top one will say "Map Editor Directory".  The bottom one will say "Directory to Place Packed Map Files In".  Disregard the top Field.  Click the Folder Icon to the Right of the bottom Field ("Directory to Place Packed Map Files In"), and set the path to "C:WestwoodEmperorMapPackerCMaps", or whichever path points to your CMaps folder.

8.) Click on the "Unpack" tab, and highlight the map you wish to Unpack from the list under the "Compressed Map Files" Field at the left of your screen.  Press the "UnPack" button in the top right corner of your screen to install the map.  The map you have just installed should now be available to you for both skirmish and WOL games.  UnPack all the maps in your "Compressed Map Files" list in the same way. 

If you download more maps in the future, you may install them simply by repeating steps 1, 6, and 8.

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