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Don't read further if you don't want to be spoiled about a certain book.

[hide]I recently(5 minutes ago actually) finished reading my brand spanking new copy of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince(Please don't laugh at me, I just want to know how everything ends in the series). All in all, it took me two days to read it.

And it fucking sucked.

Goddamnit, people tell me I'm an emotional person, which actually means that I get angry alot, and fast. So here I was, sitting on my favorite reading chair in my room, wondering aloud why the hell I been sitting in my room for 5 straight hours, sweaty from the heat generated by my computer, and for the past half-hour fighting the urge to take a shit so that I could finish the book, when I realized why this book fucking sucked;Because J.K. Rowling made it too adult.

I will now post some examples why this book is too serious and adult to be read by readers of the previous books without them[the readers] getting very angry.

BIG SPOILER WARNING HERE, PEOPLE!

1. The book is pretty slutty.

Harry and Ginny pair up, so do Ron and Lavender, and there are big hints coming from Hermione that she wants some lovin'.

2. Dumbledore dies. Dude, that is weak. Dumbledore was awesome, how could J.K. kill him? *****.

3. The ending sucked. I won't type out how it ends, since I'm fucking annoyed right now and really pissed at the piss-poor ending.

4.There were no interesting characters.J.K. had unlimited chances of making Proffessor Slughorn a very interesting and funny character, but did she? Noooo.

5.Dumledore dies. Weak.

6. Draco Malfoy is given a mission by Voldemort to kill Dumledore.A sixteen year old student sent out to kill one of the most powerful wizards alive who is about 240 years old? But Draco doesn't actually kill DD, someone else does, which brings me to my next point.

7. Snape kills Dubledore. Pussy.

8. Harry's last dialogue with Hermione and Ron deserved the title of what we Latvians here refer to as "Mexican drama series" which refersĀ  to badly planned and written out and cheesy Mexican drama series'

9.This book was to fucking serious. Whereas the other 5 books were lighthearted, fun even(Maybe with the exception of Book 5, which was a bit more serious than the other 4), this book made the leap from "Harry finds out he is a wizard and goes to Hogwarts and has fun until the end of the years when he battles it out with a Dark wizard and wins and forgets about it in a month" to "Harry goes to school, finds out that things are very fucking bad and that even some of his classmate's parents are murdered or dead, and then at the end of the school year finds out that Snape is a traitor, Malfoy is supposed to kill Dumbledore, and in the end, the school is a warzone and DD is dead."

Little kids are going to have a seizure or something when they finish this book and then go into a coma for a month, because they were so used to getting a laugh and having fun with reading Harry Potter, that the trauma for them because of the seriousness of the book will be akin to the trauma if someone named Horse Cock Harry ass-rapes you.

I have nothing else to say, because I really have to take a shit right now.[/hide]

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Umm, you should specify what book it is, not hidden, as I could or could not have read the book you are talking about, yet I will not know without looking at the hidden text...

I havn't read any of the potter books.

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The newest one, Half-Blood prince. Seriously, don't read it my first post if you are planning on reading HBP, as the post contains a lot of spoilers.

Anyway,I've cooled down a bit by now, so you can argue with me without me being and ignorant fuck.

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I liked that it was darker than the others. After all, it deals with evil. Evil doesn't pull punches. Don't get me wrong, I thought that the book sucked as well, but not because it was too 'adult.'

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I was thinking of it being "adult" as in transferring from children's book to dark, evil little novel so suddenly. It surprised me, is all. And maybe angered me. And maybe scheduled a beating of my copy of the book tommorrow. :-X

But you know what sucks?

(Don't read this, people, if you haven't read the book yet!)

[hide] DUMBLEDORE DIED!THAT IS WEAK!He was so fucking awesome, a 250 year old dude with a phat beard and who could do pretty much anything he wanted.[/hide]

Anyway, I wasn't expecting Rowling would suddenly start writing in such a dark style; I was used to the books being lighthearted with a bit of danger at the end, and this book caught me off guard.Catch my drift?

So what was the part that you enjoyed the most, Dante? Knowing you, it would probably be near the end. ;)

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Like I said, I didn't actually like it. If anything, my favourite part was near the beginning with Bellatrix and Narcissa. There was some insight into the other side there, as well as some personal detail of the characters that until now has been very lacking. It still is, really, but at there was an improvement.

She wasn't writing in a dark style, far from it. She just dealt with darker subject matter in a much more open way. If anything it's refreshing to see the concepts of death and and pain dealt with in a less childlike manner, as they have been previously. As for the character who died...

[hide]That was weak, yes. As was the supposed betrayal of Snape. The worst thing, I think, was that the book had one obvious outcome, and many more subtle ones. The obvious one was chosen, which does not a good book make. Having said that, one of the upsides was that the character, in death, became much more human. In fact, throughout this book Dumbledore had been much more human. Less infallible, less ultimate. I think that if the author wished to portray a sense of humanity, or realism, then she has done better than in other books. A character that we all believed to be invincible has fallen. That destroys our perceptions, makes us re-examine everything that we think we know about the HP universe. In some respects, this book was very well written indeed.

But that doesn't stop it being a crappy ending. [/hide]

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Dante, Dante. You overwhelm my underdeveloped brain with logic and smart words.

[hide]"But that doesn't stop it being a crappy ending"

Exactly! We MIGHT re-examine everything we know about the HP universe, we MIGHT think Dumledore more human...

...But the ending sucks, because Dumbledore was 1337. So no Dumbledore = Grumpy me(Who doesn't really give a fuck about re-evaluating things, just wants to see more omnicesent characters. ;)[/hide]

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Well I haven't read the book yet, but I read your spoilers, and I realized two things:

1. Rowling has absolutely no reason to write for her readers at this point. She's too rich and famous to really worry about her readers' opinion. She writes for art's sake.

2. Given the above, wouldn't it be fun and shocking if Harry dies at the end of book 7 and Voldemort is victorious? Or, better yet, if Harry tries and fails to stop Voldemort, dying in the process, and someone else ends up being the real hero?

Posted

Well I haven't read the book yet, but I read your spoilers, and I realized two things:

1. Rowling has absolutely no reason to write for her readers at this point. She's too rich and famous to really worry about her readers' opinion. She writes for art's sake.

Just wanted to say, you should read the book before making any real opinion, because when I wrote that first post I was a bit hotheaded and biased.

2. Given the above, wouldn't it be fun and shocking if Harry dies at the end of book 7 and Voldemort is victorious? Or, better yet, if Harry tries and fails to stop Voldemort, dying in the process, and someone else ends up being the real hero?

For me?

No.

Why?

Because I'm used to seeing Harry get lucky in every novel and overall, in almost all of the books I've read, TV shows I've watched, games I've played, the good guys always win!

So it would come as a very big shock to me if Harry died, and I would be VERY angry.

Shocking it would absolutley be, but fun?

No, not for me.

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I'm glad they get darker as they go along, I'm having trouble reading the 5th one... Its just to damn happy still.

Where's the war? The death? the destruction? The war between wizerds? The screaming inocents begging for life only to have voldemort take it away with the wave of a wand. This is war people!

But of course, you want him to continue bouncing around eating candy and being 12!

[hide] Eh? to qoute leto the great. Nothing with substance is immortal. Why would dumbledore be? Age doesn't give strength.[/hide]

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[hide]I understand what you're saying, Ex, but Dumbledore was just so damn pHaT! :D[/hide]

You must understand,though, that I have been reading and rereading the HP books since 1998, so I'm very used to the books being lighthearted. I know I should grow up and stop acting like the books are going to be childish forever, but I simply cant seem to do that, psychologically.

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2. Given the above, wouldn't it be fun and shocking if Harry dies at the end of book 7 and Voldemort is victorious? Or, better yet, if Harry tries and fails to stop Voldemort, dying in the process, and someone else ends up being the real hero?

Yes, yes it would. :) Hermione should grow a spine and splat 'em all.

Because I'm used to seeing Harry get lucky in every novel and overall, in almost all of the books I've read, TV shows I've watched, games I've played, the good guys always win!

So it would come as a very big shock to me if Harry died, and I would be VERY angry.

Shocking it would absolutley be, but fun?

No, not for me.

Where's the interest if everything's the same? Where is the excitement or intregue if everything you are ever exposed to is a bland repetition of the same old ideals and plots? Personally, I've been wanting to see a less stereotypical ending in the media for some time.
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Don't get me wrong, I like books with lots of plot twists and intrigue, but some books, like HP, I would not return to if, for example, in the last book of the series Harry(or whatever the major character of the book is) dies. If HP had lots of plot twists and tragedies from the very first book, I would probably not be shocked at all if any of the major characters died, because I would have grown used to the tragedies by now.

But the tragedy in this book shocked and angered me, because I had not grown used to tragedies in th HP books; I was used to overall happy endings.

But whatever, after about a week me views will change and I won't vare what happened in the HBP. Its been like that with all the HP books since Book 4. :)

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If HP had lots of plot twists and tragedies from the very first book, I would probably not be shocked at all if any of the major characters died, because I would have grown used to the tragedies by now.

But the tragedy in this book shocked and angered me, because I had not grown used to tragedies in th HP books; I was used to overall happy endings.

Ummm, perhaps you haven't noticed, but a rather important character died at the end of book 4, and an even more important main character died at the end of book 5. Oh, and the whole story begins with the murder of Harry's parents.

Tragedy isn't exactly uncommon in the HP series - it just gets glossed over with "happy endings". A bit like those cliche action movies that involve large numbers of people dying in painful and unreasonably theatrical ways, and when the one or two main characters manage to survive at the end, it's presented as a "happy ending".

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I personally did not like the book either. Like AK, I have been reading the series since it began. One thing I noticed about the book is that it seemed to lack the direction of the others. While the first five had a purpose, i.e harry learns of the golden gameboy, Voldermort wants the gameboy. They both get to it, fight and harry wins ETC. ETC. This book in my oppinion was used really as just an intro to the last book.

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Well I, for one, really, really, REALLY liked it.

[hide]Dumbledore dies, which makes perfect sense.Ā  As a developing character, Harry has to face the end of all things to properly defeat Voldemort.Ā  He lost his literal parents, his father figure (Sirius) and now his grandfather figure, this means that he is alone against the greatness of Voldemort (well, except for his friends, anyway), he has no fatherly protection.Ā  In other words, Harry is finally forced to "grow up".

The betrayal of Snape was absolutely brilliant, in my opinion.Ā  Anyone could have turned out to be a traitor, but to show the humaness of Dumbledore betrayed in such a way was so operatic.

The love interest thing was really just a filler, but it helped illustrate the psychology of war romance.Ā  In war, when everyone is dying, everyone alive wants something to cling to, to hold back the darkness and cold one more night.Ā  It was also critical to the development of Harry's character, there has to be a love interest at some point, I'm just surprised that it didn't start earlier.

Malfoy as the regretful assassin (actually, not an assassin at all, in the end) also makes incredible sense.Ā  The wonder of Dumbledore is his awesome humaness, which affected Malfoy from when he started Hogwarts.Ā  In the end, Malfoy was too weak to kill Dumbledore (or too strong to, depending on your interpetation of the book) because of how Dumbledore himself influenced him as he grew up.

The only thing I didn't like was the death of Aragog, which I thought was just kind of dumb.Ā  Yeah, it got Slughorn drunk enough to give Harry his memory, but I just get sick of the whole "Hagrid-loses-a-dear-pet-who-is-a-dangerous-animal" crap.

Another thing is that I keep hearing that the next (book 7) is the last of the series.Ā  I just don't believe that.Ā  There is way too much to be done before Harry can face Voldemort in any meaningful way, unless Rowling does like the author of the MageLord Trilogy and wraps it all up at the speed of light, thereby losing the mystery and storiline.

The whole point of the Harry Potter series is death vs. love.Ā  This reminds me of the "fear vs. love" thing in Donnie Darko, which struck its viewers the same way it struck its main character, love and fear is not all there is in human emotion.Ā  Obviously, love and death are not the only things in human experience, and to wrap a book series around those two ideas will leave out quite a bit of reality.Ā  This means that the fans of Harry Potter will be very dissipointed with some aspects of life that will be glossed over in favor of love or death.Ā  But if, on the other hand, you know what to expect and expect to be entertained, you will most likely be very pleased with Harry Potter, as was I.[/hide]

Finally, no form of entertainment is worth constipation.Ā  U-NO-POO is a much, much, MUCH scarier villain that You-Know-Who could ever be.

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