Caid Ivik Posted June 5, 2004 Posted June 5, 2004 http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/05/reagan.health/index.htmlIn the family circle, hunted by hard alzheimer, in age of 93 years has died today one of the greatest presidents of that country on the west of sea. We will remember him as one, who significantly helped to free us from red tyranny, who brought soviet military machinery to knees without single shot needed. I don't judge his efforts for USA, as I know truly nothing about it, but for us, Slovaks, he was the greatest one. Requiescere in pacem!
Gobalopper Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 One of the best presidents America ever had. I'm stickying the thread for a few days.
Wolf Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 A friend of mine at West Point thought Reagan was the best President the United States had.
ordos45 Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 Other than the Iran-Contra affair, quite an aweing President. He took responsibility for all those under him, accepting their blame as their own...and even when shot, he retained a sense of humor about it.
Edric O Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 Franklin Delano Roosevelt was by far the greatest president the USA ever had. Even from the rest of the world's point of view. After all, he was the one who crushed Imperial Japan and helped defeat Nazi Germany.I cannot say anything good about Reagan, so I will say nothing. May he rest in peace.
Anathema Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 Edric, that's too harsh. Though you're right about Roosevelt being better.May he rest in peace.
Edric O Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 It's not too harsh at all. Reagan was the one who un-did nearly everything Roosevelt did.Oh, and regarding the fall of stalinism, you should thank Mikhail Gorbachev for that, not Reagan.
lowzeewee Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 I heard Ronald Reagan was a good president, even my dad said so...I wasn't even born at the time he was president, so I didn't experience any of the events happening under him. :-May he R.I.P. though."free us from red tyranny"-> Wha...? ???"who brought soviet military machinery to knees without single shot needed"->Gorbachev too
otheymzefedaykin Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 It's not too harsh at all. Reagan was the one who un-did nearly everything Roosevelt did.Oh, and regarding the fall of stalinism, you should thank Mikhail Gorbachev for that, not Reagan.I think that we should thank the two ones... not only reegan, not only gorbo, the two ones...
Caid Ivik Posted June 6, 2004 Author Posted June 6, 2004 Well, Gorbacov's role was more involuntary, while Reagan knew exactly what he was doing. However, we should leave this discussion for another threads...
Edric O Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 Reagan didn't really do anything, or at least not anything new. Sure, he put some pressure on the Soviet Union, but so did many other American Presidents during the cold war. The fact is that the Soviet Union defeated itself, and mostly because of Gorbachev's stupidity. The USA had very little to do with it.
Caid Ivik Posted June 6, 2004 Author Posted June 6, 2004 Well, his Star Wars bluff was one of the best political tricks you could ever see. Russians really believed they were able to build such system, and simply couldn't fill this technological hole, altough truly imaginary one. Nail to coffin. One of many, of course.
ordos45 Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Shortly after signing a treaty on IBCMs, the maker of the film The Day After recieved a letter from Reagan. It basically said the film had scared both he and Gorbachev enough to make them take the talks more seriously.
Gobalopper Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Well since this is PRP here is a speech Reagan made on Religion:read itlisten to it
ordos45 Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Not sure if I'm paraphrasing this to the exact word, but it was on one of the news stations with their never ending coverage.A convo between Reagan and his pastor after he was shot and was in recovery:Pastor: Were you ready to meet God?Reagan: *ponders silently a few moments* Yes.Pastor: Why?Reagan: *silent a few more moments* Because I have a Savior.
lowzeewee Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Someone said this on a forum that I participate in:The so called liberal media is shrining this guy endlessly. They are trying to make him look like Mother Teresa. The same Reagan that called MLK a communist, disagreed with civil rights and flatly refused to impose sanctions on South Africa. There was a time Bishop Tutu gave a severe tongue lashing on TV because of his policies. It takes a brave person to stand right in front of the American Prez and tell him off.
Edric O Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 They say you shouldn't speak ill of the dead, but some things need to be said:http://www.gregpalast.com/printerfriendly.cfm?artid=336Note: The server is slow, so you might get the impression that the link doesn't work. In that case, just wait a little while longer.
Edric O Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 As a side note, the Soviet "invasion" of Afghanistan was more of a Vietnam-style operation than an official invasion. Basically, the Soviets had put a puppet government in Kabul a few years back, and that government was in danger of being overthrown by US-sponsored guerillas. So it requested Soviet "military aid", and the Soviets delivered it. Like I said, it was a very Vietnam-ish scenario.But getting back on topic, I really think the CIA should be more careful in choosing its friends. Both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden rose to power with US help.
ordos45 Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Bin Laden, Saddam, a lot of other dictators and terrorists.
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