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Looking Forward After September 11

Navaros

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Navaros

Navaros

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you know what they say: "records are made to be broken"

the USA is not full of immortal super-humans. they just as frail and easy to kill as humans anywhere else in the world

so this thread asks the question: *when* do you think that the body count record for September 11 will be broken, and *how* do you think it will be accomplished?

ordos45

ordos45

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Well let's see...your own nation could've broken it had the Canadian police not captured the men planning to crash planes into Toronto's nuclear plant a few weeks back.

As for when it'll be broken, I don't know, when we start seeing states giving their terrorists chemical and biological weaponry.

Dante

Dante

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I find it hard to believe that Sep 11 has the highest body count of a single incidence. Or civilian casualties. Or ever...

Why does every have to keep bringing this up? I think that's three threads now...

Andrew

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Sept 11, 3000 people died is more than died in a single day of WW II of soldiers ????(remember those that died were not all American) I see that as impossible.

and yes I noticed like 3 threads as well, some threads may not have had a title that had the words sept 11, and thus someone might have just skiiped the thread.

ordos45

ordos45

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I find it hard to believe that Sep 11 has the highest body count of a single incidence. Or civilian casualties. Or ever...

Why does every have to keep bringing this up? I think that's three threads now...

I believe the #1 event was Dresden. Allied bombers firebombed the city where refugees had flocked because it hadn't been hit.

Andrew

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How about the Hiroshima bomb?

I was refferring to U.S. and possibly Allied deaths, not the Axis deaths. As we were discussing 3000 American deaths as being the most.(which is wrong)

Acriku

Acriku

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That's hardly a single incident, Nema. You could say every day, every year, or every decade for that matter, but dying of poor water supplies is not of the category the incident on 09/11 falls into, and thus is irrelevant.

Andrew

Andrew

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A lot of things are false, but some people tend to believe them for whatever reason. A lot of things are true but some people think they are false.

Patriotism is an ok thing. Unless you look at yourselves only and become stagnant.

:O

And Acriku- your avatar makes me think you are slaphapy. ;)

but I like it. :) I mean if I changed my avatar I think it would screw a couple people up.

nemafakei

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Acriku, my main point was that so much bluster was kicked up after the death of 3000 people in one day (and the collapse of some buildings) with no really significant effect and not a scratch on the destruction going worldwide...

Had the US woken up properly, rather than flailing about at an immediate scapegoat, and at least appearted to be more panoramic, then perhaps the date might have been one notable as a day in which the US started thinking about the rest of the world rather than itself all the time.

Acriku

Acriku

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And Acriku- your avatar makes me think you are slaphapy.

but I like it. I mean if I changed my avatar I think it would screw a couple people up.

I hope someone else does not have this avatar! I'll check slaphapy's profile just to make sure, as this avatar is the best. :)
Acriku, my main point was that so much bluster was kicked up after the death of 3000 people in one day (and the collapse of some buildings) with no really significant effect and not a scratch on the destruction going worldwide...

Had the US woken up properly, rather than flailing about at an immediate scapegoat, and at least appearted to be more panoramic, then perhaps the date might have been one notable as a day in which the US started thinking about the rest of the world rather than itself all the time.

Well yes, it isn't that big of a deal in the context of what the rest of the world goes through every day. But in America, we got lax on our perspective of the real world (or atleast I did), and something as big as this (to us) really woke us up rather violently and perhaps that is why the reaction is great. Think about it, not much has happened on American soil, especially incidents killing thousands of people. Sure, we see statistical data from all around the world, but that's a very impersonal report, whereas we got to see and experience it for the first time (for many of us, especially the younger generation) on our own soil.
nemafakei

nemafakei

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Well, it seems fom my end that America's general attitude to the rest of the world has not changed significantly at all for the better (if anything, it's hardened is blind faith in its own moral superiority). Perhaps in some time to come, when your generation starts to hold sway, maybe then we might see some benevolence. But there's a long way to go yet.

But anyway, my problem lies still fundamentally with the western-world view that this was something totally out of the blue (sorry), and totally unprecedented. My answer is simply to say 'wake up'

Navaros

Navaros

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can all you guys who are posting in this thread of mine but who have not yet even attempted to address the QUESTION for which this thread exists please address that question before you go on to talk about other stuff that is not directly related to the question which i asked

thx

Acriku

Acriku

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*when* do you think that the body count record for September 11 will be broken, and *how* do you think it will be accomplished?
If North Korea's threats of nuking California are followed through, then perhaps then.
exatreide

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the galiopo landings probebly lost more then 3k a day,

and you are all forgetting the massive cassulties both sides sufferd at verdun and somme 350,000 each.

the d day landings probebly lost more then that.

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