Dragoon Knight

I imagine it would be equal parts tragic and hilarious to go trudging through PRP, looking for posts I made around that time. Given my woefully inadequate record-keeping skills, there's a very high possibility that FED2k is the closest thing I have to a diary. What did I think all those years ago? How many flame-wars did I get in with Gunwounds over it all? Oh, and Spectral, I admit: the DS was a lot better than the PSP in the end. :)

Ten years later, I'm still listening to this tune. Not continuously, you understand. You should put this up on YouTube, since it remains a damn fine piece of music, just as this was a damn fine act of thread necromancy. Man, it's been a while since I've been here.

Am I an Old Timer yet?

I miss the old forums more and more each day. With that said, the "View New Content" link now works correctly, and (like Andrew) I was also having trouble seeing the quick-reply option, but it's looking alright now. How do you set a custom colour with BBCode this time? Do you just need to re-add the [ colour ] alias, or is there some new form that I need to learn?

[colour=#005FFF]I'm still having the issue where there is clearly unread content on various boards, but the link to view new posts since my last visit returns nothing.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]I'm glad that you can return to doing what's important - diggy diggy hole. :D[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]I've noticed over the past few days that the "View New Content" link at the top right of the Forum Index no longer works properly. Even though there are clearly new posts in several different boards across FED2k, clicking the link results in a simple "Sorry, no new content found" message. I use this area to check up on everything that's been posted since I was last online, so it's pretty essential to how I browse FED2k. Any idea what's going wrong?[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]There's no meaning behind this. No "voice" to be heard. This isn't about protesting a murder anymore. Any pretense of that ended on Saturday night. It's spread from city to city, with hoodies coming out in droves to cause damage and steal things for no better reason than they're bored and/or they think it's cool to copy what was going on in London. They are lowlife scum. Anyone involved in it deserves every punishment the law allows. No excuse for this. None.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]It's the definition of stupid. These bloody hoodie-wearing idiots taking advantage of a peaceful protest to start trouble. Guns, knives and anything considered to be an offensive weapon is illegal in the UK. You can be arrested for carrying around a water pistol if it looks authentic. Yes, the PM is away holiday'ing in Tuscany, cutting short his holiday. Same with Boris Johnson, London's mayor. I'm sure we can all sympathise with those bloody toffs having to abandon their fun in the sun because London's burning. Ah, apparently riots are breaking out in Birmingham now as well. Copycats again. Newsreaders and officials saying "perpatrators WILL be caught using CCTV". Hope so. Also, great question being constantly asked; to the parents / families in London - where are your sons, brothers, daughters tonight? Do you know where they are?[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]Well, I didn't see a thread about it, so here we are. It's pretty big news here in the UK; not sure how it's being represented in other parts of the world. It started out as a peaceful protest over a man being shot by police a few days ago. That protest became violent, as most things of these nature do, because of a minority that are set on causing trouble. What we're seeing now (i.e. in the last couple of nights, and indeed, right now) is just brazen looting and destruction. There's no motive other than greed and petty desire to smash things. Of course, there are a number of things that could be said to be behind all of this. Some might argue that these hooded idiots aren't being given enough to do; that this anger has been simmering for some time now, and the events of the shooting on Thursday were the catalyst. The opening that these people were looking for. What started in North London has just been copycatted in the South. Absolutely bloody senseless. Watching BBC News live at the moment, parts of Hackney are on fire. Cars, buildings, bins... lines of police standing in riot gear. Apparently, this is all going to get worse as night falls. Being orchestrated over Facebook, Twitter and BlackBerry Messenger. Anyone in London at the moment with a better sense of what's going on? What are other countries' reactions to this unrest?[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]I think that the discussion of the event itself should be able to stay in General. However, discussion of whether or not someone can be justified in saying that a person "couldn't possibly be a Christian" because he committed an atrocious act should probably be conducted in a separate PRP thread, yes. But then again, this is Fox News.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]Please, Andrew; do Wolf and I the credit of not mocking us. I understand that Dante doesn't believe that Eras is sockpuppeting, but no-one can offer any proof that he isn't. The trouble, of course, is that there's nothing decisive to show that he is, because the moderation team doesn't want to look into it. Like your aborted reply, no-one can be bothered. So until you can, I ask you again: please do not mock us. Whether you meant to or not, it came off as offensive. Thank you. EDIT: To be balanced, I'd like to thank you for taking at least some action against Eras.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]Such a relaxing tune from a really fun game. :)[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]Sorry for performing a bit of thread necromancy, but I've only just recently got into this game. :) I used to play DotA; not for very long, perhaps a month or so. But during that time, it was more or less all I played. I stayed up days on end playing this game, which wasn't even really a game; just a specially modelled map in Warcraft III. It gave birth to the whole MOBA (Multiplayer Online Battle Arena) genre, however; the two main titles are League of Legends (LoL) and Heroes of Newerth (HoN). I've not tried the latter, but I can say that League of Legends is better than DotA ever was. I've managed to keep my playing of it more or less in line (he says at 4:40am after an all-night LoL session), but the improvements are noticeable. As Acriku said, it's entirely free to play. There's a micro-transaction system in place where you can buy "RP" (Riot Points, paid-for currency). These can be used to purchase alternate character skins (completely cosmetic, no effect on gameplay) or packs that give you bonus multipliers for gaining XP or "IP" (Influence Points, in-game currency). Just about everything can be bought using IP or RP, with a few things being RP only. None of them effect gameplay in any way, so the people you match up against will have exactly the same abilities available as you. I, for one, plan to never spend a single penny in this game, but it's still a ton of fun. I encourage everyone to come and give this a shot. If you're interested, and you wouldn't mind doing so, you could use my referral link to make a free account. If you reach Level 5 (which is pretty easy), then I get a bonus of something or other. :) Here is my link: Sign Up If you're just interested in taking a look, here's a link to just the game's website: EU Site | US Site[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]That was an extremely interesting read. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I had no idea that the situation in Greece was this desperate; perhaps depraved is a better word for it. If even half of the statements in this article are accurate - and I fully believe that the vast majority are - then I have very little sympathy for the general population of Greece. Elements of the article do paint a less debauched, more fearful side to some of the population. Perhaps there are many within Greece who are dismayed at the need for bribes, at the state of their public services, but feel powerless to do anything. Given the choice between bribing your doctor or forfeiting treatment, what would any of us honestly choose? Especially given the readily available avenues of exploitation on offer. In effect, the situation in Greece may have forced honest and decent people to turn to these illicit methods; to take the vastly inflated pay, if only to pay for a life in a corrupted country. For what it reveals, the article is an amazing insight into how Greece got into this mess and how it will need to work to get itself out. But a lot of what the author encounters is hearsay. I am less inclined to believe that every Greek is out for themselves, for example, than I am wont to believe what was said about cooking the books. We all know the legacy of Goldman Sachs; both of those tax collectors had evidence, either in personal experience or documentation, to show the flagrant disregard for the economy. To say that the situation in Greece today is the fault of its people is correct, but put yourself in their shoes. Imagine the sense of injustice you would feel at having the rug pulled from under you like this, with no promises of actually remedying the situation. This is where the modicum of sympathy that I do have comes into play. Greece is in desperate need of help, but it is prideful beyond belief. It's like a wounded lion, roaring and biting at anyone who tries to get close, while it slowly bleeds to death. Sooner or later, the rest of Europe will be able to come in and place the country on metaphorical life support. But as the author of that article put it so succinctly, will it all be too little, too late?[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]I'm sorry, but I disagree. There is someone who forces us to read Eras' posts: Eras. Same goes for answering them. As we've explained time and again, nicely and nastily and everywhere in-between. Just because Eras sugar-coats his insults doesn't make them any less real. Yet because he dances around, pretending to be civil, he gets away with it. There's the letter of the law and then there's the spirit of the law. Eras should have been banned long, long ago.[/colour] [colour=#005FFF]We want to maintain those standards; everything Dante, Wolf and I have been doing in this forum for the past several months has been aimed towards excising the cancer that has taken root here. You honestly think that swear words are worth deleting a post over, but blatant discrimination based on sexuality and skin colour isn't? While we labour away, being upfront and clear, Eras continues to get his jollies at this forum's expense. He's making a fool of every moderator here, whether you see that or not.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]I'll just leave these here. http://forum.dune2k.com/index.php?/topic/23597-union-busting/page__st__20__p__370831__hl__%22%23ell%22__fromsearch__1#entry370831 http://forum.dune2k.com/index.php?/topic/23579-censored/page__p__370594__hl__%22%23ell%22__fromsearch__1#entry370594 http://forum.dune2k.com/index.php?/topic/21615-afghanistan-war/page__p__370461__hl__%22%23ell%22__fromsearch__1#entry370461 You're going to have to work harder at keeping your fake friends' personalities separate, Eras.[/colour]

"This keeps happening, " Dragoon Knight's muffled voice said with more than a trace of despondency. "How is a man to get a decent dust tan around here?!" "Pissflaps, " announced a suspiciously Yves-shaped mound, from the general location of the floor, where a pricesless ming vase-rug will have once laid yesterday. With an audible pfff, two arms shot out of a third mound of grey particulate matter. One of the hands was holding a calculator, which the other started furiously tapping on. "Studies have shown that NO." Dragoon Knight recognised Dirk's voice from behind the rapid calculation. "Which studies?" "All studies." "That seems unlikely." "Aheheheh..." Yves interjected, each letter becoming a wizard of some renown. Dragoon Knight sat up, dust flowing off of him like dust flowing off a person who had just sat up after having lots of dust on them while they were lying down on a floor for quite a while, possibly a number of years, but recently having had a brief conversation with two other people. "DON'T GET ANY IDEAS, " said God. "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, " said A the Wizard. "HAVEN'T I HEARD OF YOU?" A was not forthcoming, choosing instead to reply to God with "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! AAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!", before rotating precisely 54.6 degrees along the X, Y and Z axes, then flying over that way somewhere. "Magic, Magic E!" exclaimed an exuberantly excited E. "Wasn't there another one of you?" Dragoon Knight asked, because. "Consonants can't be wizards, " Dragoon Knight replied. "Wait, what?" he asked himself. "Five, " was the only reply. "YOU'RE NOT BUGGERING ABOUT WITH REALITY AGAIN." "I resent the implication that we-" Dragoon Knight began. "IF I SEE YOU SO MUCH AS LOOK AT A MARKER PEN OR A T-SHIRT, I SWEAR I WILL WRITE A WHOLE NEW NEW TESTAMENT." "That seems a little excessi-" "IT SHALL BE CALLED THE TESTAMENT OF PAIN." "Well that's-" "DO YOU KNOW WHAT WILL BE IN IT?" "Pain?" "PAIN." "I think we get-" "THE PAIN WILL BE HAPPENING TO YOU." "Yes?" "YES." "How much pain are we-" Dragoon Knight's tower exploded. Again. Seriously, how many times is that now? Even I don't know, and I typed this shit. "MORE THAN THAT." "Understood, " acknowledged Dragoon Knight, currently upside-down in a thing. "This is sloppy work, " Dante criticised. "Why must everything I own explode?" asked the upside-down one. "Oh I think we both know the answer to that." "Samuel Clemens." "Gesundheit." "Why am I in a thing?" "Because your tower exploded, " Dante answered, pointing out the obvious, completely ruining the epic game of hide and seek that it had been playing for something approaching fifteen years. "Twin becomes twine with me!" said E, waving his wand. "Nah, " Dante declared, causing a minor rip in reality, through which stepped the dreaded Twine Twins. "WHAT. WHAT WAS THAT? I HEARD SOMETHING." "No you didn't." "I'M SURE I HEARD REALITY RIPPING ASUNDER." "That was this adorable kitten." "THAT IS A METRIC TON OF FIRE BADGERS." "That is... inconvenient, to say the least, " Dante acceded, trying not to think too hard about holding aloft his flaming cargo. "WHERE DID YOU EVEN GET THOSE?" "We are the dreaded Twine Twins! And we're here to-" the pair announced, before being cut short by a bolt of lightning that reduced them to ashes. "QUIET." "The hour is approaching, " Dirk reminded everyone from his position astride the Sun. "Is there even a point to this?" Dante asked, watching Dragoon Knight running around in circles in a vain attempt to dislodge himself from the thing. "An underlying logic or direction for what we're doing?" "Hell to the no, " Yves said, because he was now Dragoon Knight, and Yves was stuck in a thing, which was quickly discovering that it was stuck on Yves. "I make this crap up as I go along." "Sloppy, " chided the wielder of badgers. "You weren't here at the beginning!" Dragoon Knight reprimanded with a dismissive wave, which despite its negativity, was actually a nega-tsunami. "Now you're just making things up. What the Belgium is a nega-tsunami?" "It's time for TIME, " said an unknown sixth party in a dimension completely unrelated to this one, or indeed any other. As is proper, it had devastating effects on the ming vase-rug. No longer simply a stupid excuse for a plot point thought up several paragraphs ago in an attempt to be funny, it became sentient and able to make rational decisions. It was astounded to find that it had innate knowledge of Pi to 60 trillion digits, but was more alarmed to discover that - despite all of this - it was on fire. "Don't put your badgers there; my vase-rug cost cash value 0.0001p!" Dragoon Knight cried, still riding the wave across the plains of Britain. "WHY MUST YOU UNMAKE ALL I HAVE WROUGHT?" God blared from on high, but not quite as high as Dirk, who was now skipping across Alpha Centauri. "Fear not, " Dragoon Knight said with a reassuring smile. "Yves has planned for this very eventuality. This exact sequence of events has been foretold for centuries. Yves, if you please." Obliging, Yves tried to remove his mask to reveal that he was actually Orange McGrinsmile, but since he was not actually wearing a mask, succeeded only in removing his face. "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, sir, " the aide reported. "Excellent, " said the real Orange McGrinsmile, who had been posing as H the Wizard since the beginning. He grinned, then smiled, then ate everything in one chomp. The Tower was back (again). Everyone was back in Dragoon Knight's office (again). Several new friends had been made this day. Orange McGrinsmile lurked in a corner, ominous in his tanned glory. Exactly five seconds later, the universe caught on to the fact that a metric ton of fire badgers would not fit in the office.

[colour=#005FFF]It's "a lot", not "alot". It's only the most glaring of your spelling / grammatical errors in that post, but you understand that I can only dedicate so much effort to pointing out your various multiple innumerable failures.[/colour] Deliberate: verb - To think carefully or attentively; reflect [colour=#005FFF]That is not what has been done in this thread. No issues have been resolved. This thread is indicative of the cancer that is you, and these accusations and complaints about your actions will not stop just because you've written another pitiful summarising post in an equally sad attempt to move on. You are a horrible person, as extolled by your views and the way you present / fail to defend them. You bring nothing of substance to these forums, except to serve as an example of how not to post. Moreover, how not to live. I know you like to pretend that I don't exist, because the mean man with the blue writing says things that cut a little too deep. Well tough. The mods are bound to a stance of neutrality, which serves to protect you from the kind of treatment you'd receive if you ever espoused these views in a real-life, public situation. As such, I will never stop calling you out on your every failure, no matter how much you want to pretend I'm not here.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]Well now that's something I hadn't thought of. Yes, Ventrilo or Mumble or TeamSpeak; one of those would be ideal. We wouldn't need to say anything substansive. Just all be present and say a sentence or two to confirm that we're all real people. I'd be more than happy to do that. How about you, Eras? Oh, my apologies... could someone else ask Eras that question? Like a petulant child, he's refusing to acknowledge my existence. :P[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]It's become pretty evident that everything Wolf is saying is correct. Even if you're using different IP addresses, Eras, you're still a terrible actor. The first indicator that you were all the same person is your decision to make the usernames all very reminiscent of your own. "TheCurtOne" and "DenisAtreides" - both are multiple names contracted into one using capital letters to distinguish the individual words, just like your own. While this is by no means a certain sign of sock-puppetry, it was suspicious enough when the first of your alter-egos came on the scene. With the addition of the second, it was clear we were just dealing with you again. Notice as well the meanings behind the names; a person called Curt, who is very curt with his views. Ha ha, it's funny because it's a double meaning. Except it's not. This is a classic example of what passes for humour with you. Next, "DenisAtreides" - hey, let's deflect the situation by talking about Dune! That's what your arguments tend to boil down to (amongst other platitudes and assorted bullshit, of course), so it seems perfectly logical that your third account would be designed as such. I've also noticed that, in a pitiful attempt to make your Curt account seem legitimate, you've taken on an avatar. That particular avatar makes me alert and suspicious on sight, as it happens, due to a previous poster who used it, so it helped me in identifying the language similarities between all three of you. The sentence structure, the poorly attempted changes in language and spelling ("#ell", for example) to try and differentiate yourselves. It's pathetic. My suggestion to Edric (or Andrew) would be to perform a WHOIS check on all of Eras' IP addresses (and by that, I mean checking Eras, Curt and Denis) to determine just how far away from eachother they really are. Again, IP addresses aren't a surefire method of catching people like this out, but we can but hope that Eras has been stupid enough to make it this easy for us. And finally, I agree; the only ways for you to prove us wrong, Eras, would be for you to have an argument with your "friends". Sit down of a night and post one after another. I don't doubt for a second that you're all the same person - it's just that I'm interested in seeing just how far you'll go to propogate a ruse that has already fallen flat on its face. I should get some popcorn; this is better than a deranged, middle-aged female any day.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]Seriously, put a monitor in front of Gene there and that's pretty much me when reading the original post in this thread... and again now that arnoldo has contributed. It never ceases to amuse me when small-minded people with an inferiority complex think that the world is out to get them. It's a nice way to blame all your failings on something other than yourself. Sure, there's some validity in saying "Screw the banks for messing up the economy! Now I can't get a job!", but there are limits. ath was temporarily banned for a short period of time, for good reasons, and was in no way censored. Unfortunately, since he has delusions of grandeur on a scale rarely seen among the sane, he took this as being verification of everything he believes. "Look, look! They've banned me! They're suppressing my free speech!" What was that Monty Python sketch again? I'm sure it was in Holy Grail... Ah, here we go. . :D[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]Curt, for someone who claims to be different from Eras, you certainly sound a lot like him, both in your tone of posting and your views. Hell, some of what you type could easily be mistaken for his own special brand of posting. Prove me wrong. Go into detail about what you think about Eras' posting and our responses, since you've "read it all". Give us something substansive to go on that will help us distinguish you from someone who (for all intents and purposes) looks like Eras posting under a different username. As for what this forum is? It's a place where opinions are respected when they aren't just unsubstantiated, barely-concealed hate and intolerance. Your views can be left, right, center, up, down, diagonal; anything, so long as you can back them up. If you can't, expect to be called out on them. If your views are controversial, then expect to take some flak over them. The only time you're going to be "flamed" is if you start acting (more) like Eras. If you end up on someone's "sh!t list", it'll be of your own doing.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]Lots of posts, but what it all boils down to is either an outside view from someone who can't fully grasp what's going on, a good-natured (albeit approaching desparate) attempt to stick to the rules without upsetting people and more of the same from you know who. First, I shall address Edric's points. To be frank, proposing that Eras be forbidden to post in threads we start is an empty gesture of placation. It does nothing to address the core issue, and would inevitably be followed by a vice versa rule ("to be fair"), thus achieving your goal of us being unable to cause hassle by posting in the same threads. My original suggestion wasn't simply a mandate to monitor how logically watertight a person's argument is; every one of us is guilty of using subjective opinions in our debates. That's just part of what the board is about. The real goal is to tackle the sort of behaviour exhibited (of late) by the likes of Eras, ath and Hwi. Each have a similar, but unique way of methodically ignoring or twisting arguments or posts. Some of Eras' countless failings were bullet-pointed in Wolf's latest post. athanasios has a habit of posting sensationalist nonsense in a foreign language, giving the impression of someone who runs around in circles with a tinfoil hat on, throwing newsletters everywhere and reciting the Greek alphabet. Hwi's special ability was powered by bitterness over a personal grudge, coupled with blind obstinance. Tackling this requires an individual approach, but it can be enforced by a broad style of moderation. If an argument is turning into another debacle, with Eras describing the male anatomy in what he laughably considers a "graphic" manner and talking about being friends and reading Dune, etc. then a suggestion to remedy this would be thus: - One (or more) posters who feel that Eras isn't addressing points / offering valid arguments makes a post highlighting each of the points that he has fallen down on. - This post is then reported using the forum software, with the reason being "PRP dispute - *nature of failing*". - A moderator comes in, reads the complaint post (and quite possibly a good portion of the last page or so of posts) and can then - without taking sides in the argument - see objectively that Eras isn't addressing the issue. Effectively, it would be a sort of chairperson's role. If someone can't debate properly, then they don't deserve to be on the team. They certainly don't deserve to continue shouting their ignorance from across the table while the grown-ups are trying to talk. Now Flibble; have you gone back and read any of the threads, like I asked you to? It's all well and good trying to be objective, but there's a difference between objectivity and being completely disconnected. Someone who reads through the threads we've participated in over the last year might not develop the same level of utter disgust towards Eras that I have, but they would certainly pick up on the key failures mentioned so very many times before. He is incapable of having a rational debate on a matter. As of right now, no counter-measures suggested by anyone on this board have been implemented, so yes, you seem to have missed something. But even if we had suggested something and failed, it would still be moot, because we've also tried ignoring him. Saying "well your plan didn't work and neither does mine" isn't constructive. Anathema, hello. Yes, I agree that banning someone who hasn't broken the rules would be wrong. This is why I'm suggesting that closer attention be paid to these threads. If the issue of arguments not being addressed / points not being substantiated is nipped in the bud before the thread devolves into namecalling, then we either end up with Eras being forced into making cogent arguments or being suspended / banned for not following the instructions of a moderator. TheCurtOne; I'm going to do you the favour of first of all assuming that you're not simply Eras posting under another account. Such things are presumably detectable by the forum software and visible to moderators. I'm also going to give the benefit of the doubt to you for an extended period, because I need to assume that you are an intelligent person. That you don't necessarily hold to Eras' beliefs, and you will be able to see where he fails to provide valid reasoning. Perhaps you will even grow to understand why all the "trash talk" and insults are being levelled at him, and see through his thin "trying to be friends with everybody" façade. I understand that you will have heard one side of the story for a long time. I understand that you will want to stand by your friend. I hope that you will come to see him as he truly is; a horrible human being. Or perhaps while you're here, he'll simply stop posting his hate speech. Either way would be good. Regardless, you get a tentative welcome from me. But if your views are on par with Eras', I warn you that they won't be welcomed here. And we come to Eras. - Yes, there are a myriad of specific posts we have problems with. Would you like me to hunt them down? Because I will. I'll go through every single one of the threads you've posted in and pick up every single post that you failed to answer a point in, then I will post it here. Just say the word. - Yes, there are specific viewpoints we have issue with. Chief among them is your inability to provide any justification for your arguments, regardless of subject, but your stance on homosexuality is up there as well. - No, you don't grasp the real issue, no matter how many times we try to tell you. You have failed every test. Every chance. Every olive branch. Every single time we try and explain. EVERY TIME. You have consistently failed to present your arguments properly, back them up when challenged, or provide logical counter-points to others' criticisms of your hate-filled bile. - Everything we have done has been attempts to try and make you see sense. To try and ask yourself, "Wow, I wonder why I'm getting called an idiot so much?" - See a psychiatrist about this martyr complex of yours. You are no more a survivor than limescale under a lavatory rim. All it takes is the right sort of bleach. Just so it's clear, both Dante and I have been very vocal on what it would take to "reconcile" with this creature. Nothing less than what I've suggested above (i.e. adherence to standards of posting and debate which allow for it to actually take place, rather than devolving into us shouting at him for being an idiot) will go any way towards that outcome. I don't presume to talk on Dante or Wolf's behalf, but I gauge that the moderation style I've proposed (and the changes that Wolf bulletpointed) would at least be a step in the right direction.[/colour]

[colour=#005FFF]We need the rules. I agree to the looser implementation in PRP, but there has to be a greater depth to the moderation. Following the letter of the law isn't going to help, here. Anyone who has read these threads (as I have constantly implored others to do) will realise that the "flaming" and "name-calling" these... people complain about is not only justified, but accurate. If someone is being called a racist, it's because they've exhibited racist attitudes and failed to defend themselves (if such a defense even exists). If I say someone is an idiot, it's because their behaviour and debating ability (or lack thereof) demonstrates this time and again. When someone either can't or won't respond to logical criticism, it stops being a debate. THIS is where moderation should happen. A post saying, for example, "Eras, you have constantly failed to justify / answer / address X, Y and Z. Either do so or stop posting in this thread, otherwise you will face a 2-day posting ban." If this sort of thing were to occur, it would force these low-content trolls to actually form thoughts. When our points are then addressed, or their own views backed up by something - anything - tangible, we can then proceed with the debate. When there are issues actually being discussed, the only "name-calling" around will be the stuff of old; "hypocrite", "straw man", "dense" and the like. More important will be disproving the opponent(s) argument. As it stands, this does not happen. Every single thread in PRP where Eras "participates" and puts forth his unsubstantiated and un-educated (often hateful) views eventually boils down to him not addressing the points put to him, whether these be calls to back up his own points of view or to respond to criticisms of the same. If you don't have time to moderate, then it's time to get more moderators, because PRP is horribly, horribly active.[/colour] [colour=#005FFF]Stop brown-nosing. You get to have an opinion on things when you start respecting that of others, you two-faced sycophant.[/colour] [colour=#005FFF]Agreed. See above for a few suggestions on the matter.[/colour] [colour=#005FFF]I'm sorry, but this view is both incredibly naive and has already been addressed at least twice in this thread alone. Ignoring doesn't work. I encourage you to read the threads that Eras and ath have posted in and gain a greater understanding of the levels of intolerance and sensationalism (respectively) we're dealing with here.[/colour]