flybyjack76ers1 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I believe there are fremen among us.Next time you go to the mall, look for people with blue eyes. Some are so blue and have hair just like a fremen.but why would fremens eyes turn blue if the spice color is orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Orange stuff (the spice can be any color, I don't remember Frank Herbert giving some info about that) doesn't need to stay orange. It's like you dissovle a specefic matter in water, it can change of color too.Or the spice goes through a chemical reaction, and the residu is blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I'm not to sure what the specific reaction is, but the blue eyes is just a biproduct of the chemical reactions that spice causes within the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 actually the pure essense is blue. it saturates the blood and travels throughout the body, altering it's composition. The eyes are stained with it basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad dib Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 actually the pure essense is blue. it saturates the blood and travels throughout the body, altering it's composition. The eyes are stained with it basically.Thats like when most babys are born their eyes are blue because they are pure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Blond hair blue eyes are purebred ;) Sorry had to say it...Anyways, isn't the water of life blue, but the melange from the spiceflower explosion straight to the fine powder in the coffee is orangy-brown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Acriku: That's how I pictured it. Then again, I saw the movie first.Flybyjack76ers: The Fremens' eyes (called the "Eyes of the Ibad" by the Fremen) are blue withing blue. That is to say, they have no whites. I've never seen anyone like that.And the blue eyes, as well as making Fremen look mysterious/bad-ass, also acts as a light filter, allowing them to see in the white Arrakeen sun (Canopus) with more clarity than someone not addicted to the Spice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 hey vanguard, I have seen the eyes of ibad spelled a different way. I saw it as Eyes of Ibab. hmmm oh well lolWhats up with this aryan stuff anyway? geesh lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 So tma, what is your answer? To my post that is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 I think I've heard that too, TMA. I forget which one it is they use in the book.Whats up with this aryan stuff anyway? geesh lolI was wondering this myself, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 well, from my reading of the book, the pure essense, what spice really is, I thought it said it was blue. From the prequels and frank's books. that means that the pure stuff is blue in my opinion. i hve heard others say that part of the melange molecule is identical to cinnamon. That is what the DE says. So it could give off the hue that cinnamon bark does, which is brownish. Anyways.lol I think that it is blue from my readings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad dib Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 I was talking to a friend about this and he said that it could be from their stilsutes. Since they wear them eather all the time or part time, he said thats when it starts to work. Like in EBFD, the fremens eyes go from blue to brown and back to blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Question! acording to the frank herbarts movie it takes about 10-12 years for their eyes to turn blue or if you drink the water of life, then why is pauls eyes blue when he hasnt been their very long and hadnt taken the water of life yet? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 That may just be a movie error, after all it's a 3 hour movie and 12 years would be too long, especially since he doesn't seem to age much from beginning to end.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 I was talking to a friend about this and he said that it could be from their stilsutes. Since they wear them eather all the time or part time, he said thats when it starts to work. Like in EBFD, the fremens eyes go from blut to brown and back to blue.No. I don't know where your friend could have got that idea. It says clearly in the book that the blue eyes are from melange addiction. Besides, how would wearing a suit change one's eye colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 I dont think that it could have been a movie error because something that significant to the story line would not have been overlooked so easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 The twelve years until eye colour change is something unique to the miniseries. In Dune, there is no set time for eyes to change colour, it depends on how adicted you are to the spice. Fremen would be born with blue in blue eyes as they would become addicted within the womb. Off worlders who came to dune would slowly have there eyes turn blue, depending ont ehre exposer tot he spice. Those living on off-world food, and therefore not ingesting near as much spice as if they ate native food, would only ahve the slightest tint of blue int he whites of there eyes, while fremen would have complete blue-in-blue eyes with no whites, iris, or pupils (that you can see, of course they still exist, they are just entirly hidden by the blue "dye"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 When a fremen child was born on arrakis, I for some reason thought it took some amount of time until there eyes turned all blue. I know that the mother would be spice soaked so it would transfer to the child, but i thought I read the above somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 It wouldn't be hard to consider that for a long while now, since every fremen takes a huge amount of spice, and eyes are blue within blue, the babies will be born with it even if no spice is taken within the womb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 And Jessica knew she'd see the baby soon enough -- a blue-eyed cherub brought tothe Reverend Mother for blessing.DuneI guess I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 so your saying paul was a major adict to the spice so his eyes changed in a matter of one to two years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Remember that the Spice was in everything. All food they ate had Spice in it (i.e. Spice Wafers, Spice coffee, etc), save a few plants from the palmaries. Even the air outside would have trace amounts of Spice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 but they say that by the time a FRYMEN child in is 12 the eyes are blue.. they live around it all they're lives and it take twelve years im sure they got 5 times more spice then paul did in 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Worf Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 It might not be the amount, but the age... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 but they say that by the time a FRYMEN child in is 12 the eyes are blue.. they live around it all they're lives and it take twelve years im sure they got 5 times more spice then paul did in 2 yearsOnce again, you are thinking about the miniseries. Only in the miniseries does it take twelve years for children to acquire the blue in blue eyes. Cut down on contact/CGI costs. In the books they are born blue due to there mothers addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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