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sneezer3

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one thing sneezer why is it so bad for him to have been in favor of communism? Does that make him evil?

Communism does not work. study it some time and find out why.

Yeah, but you certainly don't seem to be. You should really read more into Martin Luther King, because you don't seem to know to much of the truth about him.

Maybe you din't read what i said on page 2 but i said i'd be able to go into a lot more detail soon.

There is a video i am planing on seeing that explans in detail what all it is. so i will be able to go into a lot more detail real soon. If only this weren't a messege bored we could all see it :P

This is disgusting! Are you saying that Martin Luther King was wrong?!?

Not at all, and i think you know that. its just you hear lies these days example:
Dr King was a non-violent man. who had a dream of piece. and all men treated evenly.

They even teach stuff like that in school.

Inoculator9

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They teach that in a lot of places.

Communism didn't work, fusion power didn't work but that doesn't mean it couldn't be a good thing if it did work. Communism was a brilliant and enlightened idea, but it was one that the human mentality wasn't ready for.

People who claim that people like Dr. King were just lies give are like people who say that the Holocaust never happened. Dr. King gave rise to the events that would free an entire people from oppresion across the planet, and he died for his convictions. Are you going to call Dr. King's murderer an enlightened savior of humanity, someone who prevented years of Dr. King's evil works?

sneezer3

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People who claim that people like Dr. King were just lies give are like people who say that the Holocaust never happened. Dr. King gave rise to the events that would free an entire people from oppresion across the planet, and he died for his convictions. Are you going to call Dr. King's murderer an enlightened savior of humanity, someone who prevented years of Dr. King's evil works?

I never said that. please start reading what i say before slandering.

And no he din't "die for his canvictions" someone shot him. I for one hope i don't get any "canvictions" of killing anyone along the way of a protest. ::)

And no he was not. but he probbly needed to be dead almost. otherwise unfairness and killings would keep on going on.

Anathema

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He most probably was, and besides that, he knew he could very well be shot yet it didn't stop him.

And you can say about what he wants, but he accomplished a noble goal and because of that he is a hero.

emprworm

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Almost everwhere he went violent acts occerd. I do agree that all men should be treated equely.

lol, sneezer. You ever hear of the Apostles? How about Christians in early rome? Everywhere they went, violent acts occured.

what do you think about that?

Inoculator9

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The Apostles and Martin Luther King were the heralds of radical and new ideas compared to the norms of their times, there will always be people who fear change and are so ignorant of the world around them that they will kill innocent people to oppose it.

sneezer3

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Almost everwhere he went violent acts occerd. I do agree that all men should be treated equely.

lol, sneezer. You ever hear of the Apostles? How about Christians in early rome? Everywhere they went, violent acts occured.

what do you think about that?

It was not them that did the violent acts. The acts were agenst them. they had nothing to do with it.

he accomplished a noble goal and because of that he is a hero.

The Apostles and Martin Luther King were the heralds of radical and new ideas compared to the norms of their times, there will always be people who fear change and are so ignorant of the world around them that they will kill innocent people to oppose it.

The Apostles is a diffrant story.

They had acts commited agenst. the Blacks commited acts

The diffrance is as simple as this. They had acts commited agenst. and the other commited the acts. that is a

argueing with you guys is like argueing with a brick wall. shesh keep an open mind on stuff. :P

Deny it all you want to. but Martin Luther King was a KNOWN COMMUNEST SYMPATHIZER,(which means he favord it) and commited VIOLENT ACTS AGNEST THE INNOCENT. and now days blacks have MORE RIGHTS now days. they can file a claim in court of "Discrimenation agenst blacks" theres your "treat all men equely" hero.

Call me when you want to keep an open mind.

TMA_1

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many great christians were communists. The early church practiced sociallism. Just because a person was or is a communist doesnt mean they are evil. Though communism doesnt work in a large power structure. America is a place where anybody can have any belief they want as long as they dont harm others. dont be such a macarthiest.

Anathema

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The diffrance is as simple as this. They had acts commited agenst. and the other commited the acts. that is a

I have no idea what you're talking about here.

they can file a claim in court of "Discrimenation agenst blacks" theres your "treat all men equely" hero.

Recently there was a news story in wich white students filed in a charge to a university for allowing black students with lower grades then them (so called positive discrimination).

Dude_Doc

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A question Edric, take it or leave it:

You got 2 choices. Nothing more. You must choose one of them. Observe: This is a fictorious scenario and will probably never happen.

You have two choices of how you want the world to be ruled. When one of them is chosen, they will last until the end of the universe.

1. This option means that the world will be socialism/communism, every man, woman and child will all be treated equaly. The state will think of everyone as whole. But, one thing is forbidden: religion. You get killed if you believe in any religion.

2. The world will be ruled with a right-wing party. The world will sooner or later be like America, with corporations, cheating and everything that can make money. There is a risk that some people are treated unequal, some are poor, some are too rich etc.

But, in this world, you can believe in whatever you wish, and it is only positive in any job you choose, that you believe in something.

I would choose nr. 2. What about you?

emprworm

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Deny it all you want to. but Martin Luther King was a KNOWN COMMUNEST SYMPATHIZER,(which means he favord it) and commited VIOLENT ACTS AGNEST THE INNOCENT. and now days blacks have MORE RIGHTS now days. they can file a claim in court of "Discrimenation agenst blacks" theres your "treat all men equely" hero.

huh? Who did Martin L King commit violence against? I think you have this wrong sneezer. The KKK might want you to believe that....

and again, there is nothing evil about a Christian thinking that communism as a philosophy is better than capitalism.

nemafakei

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Dude_doc... are you asking morality or religion... I know which I would take, even if I were a theist. That is the only logical answer.

But it also depends on the idea of right wing - do you mean liberal right (ie pro-business only) or moral right (ie beleiving in proper moral values)

Anathema

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The term comes from the tradition that economical liberals sat on the right side of the hall, and the socialists on the left side (or at least, that's the way I remember it).

And Dude, facing both those extremes I'd probably take #2. I must point out that both scenarios are outdated (except #1 for China, but that isn't even really communist). And if #2 actually occurs the people are likely to revolt, like Marx predicted.

sneezer3

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Like i said. he is a KNOWN communist sympathizer.

And the early Christians practiced socialism.

many great christians were communists. early church practiced sociallism. Just because a person was or is a communist doesnt mean they are evil. Though communism doesnt work in a large power structure. America is a place where anybody can have any belief they want as long as they dont harm others. dont be such a macarthiest.

He did not just sympathize communeism. he with sympathizeed with communests and commited violent acts. and the communest were there to stir up havec.

Think of it like this. if you where a communest. and you had an enemy whats the Best what to get him without doing anything yourself? ::)

Anyway. i'm still reserching into the exact statements and acts etc. hopefully i'l be able to tell them to ya soon.

huh? Who did Martin L King commit violence against? I think you have this wrong sneezer. The KKK might want you to believe that....

lol please tell me you don't actully belive i call up the KKK for my infomation.

anyway. i'm still reserching into it.

many great christians were communists. early church practiced sociallism. Just because a person was or is a communist doesnt mean they are evil.

I would agree that it does not. however, most of the time they are. and very few Christans were communests. and it doesn't give a good sighn. Most weren't any good. take hitler for an example.

Some say he had a devine destany, have you heard what happend to him near a trench? no?

When he was in the war. (before he was a leader.) he heard something deep inside tell him to move from where he was. and fast. he walked over and ducked. and a morter came and blew up the other six men he was staying with.

Untill i find something exact about Martin Luther.(like an exact act) i'l keep you posted. :)

Edric O

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Hitler was a fascist, so what does he have to do with communism? And he wasn't a Christian, he had his own warped world view... his own religion, basically, in which he was God.

The reason you can't find those facts is that they probably don't exist.

Anathema

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I would agree that it does not. however, most of the time they are. and very few Christans were communests. and it doesn't give a good sighn. Most weren't any good. take hitler for an example.

Hitler was a communist? Well, why didn't you tell us before? The revelation of the century ::)

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