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What would happen if the Internet Crashed?

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October 23, 2002

Massive DDoS Attack Hit DNS Root Servers

By Ryan Naraine

A massive distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack (define) of unknown origin briefly interrupted Web traffic on nine of the 13 DNS "root" servers that control the Internet

During the course of the ping-flood pounding, only four of 13 root servers remained up and running while seven were completely crippled. (See graphs here).

A spokesman for the FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC), which tracks service attacks on the Internet, confirmed an investigation was underway.

While DNS server attacks aren't uncommon, the latest pounding to the 13 root servers stood out because it was orchestrated over a one-hour window and appeared to be the work of experts.

A spokesman for UUNET, which is the service provider for two of the root servers, told internetnews.com it was the "largest, most targeted attack" ever seen. "This did not affect the end user but it was huge and concerted. It was rare because it was aimed at all 13 servers. It was an attack on the Internet itself and not a particular Web site or service provider," he explained.

While the ISC's Vixie noted that the only way to thwart an attack of this magnitude would be to over-provision, many believe that if the attack was sustained for a longer period, the effects could have been catastrophic.

I find it strange that the whole internet is dependent upon these 13 servers, whos exact locations have been kept secret per US government.

If the entire worlds economy becomes dependent upon the internet- from business to education, to finances, etc. And these 13 servers were to crash either through attack or through CONSPIRACY, then the world would be brought to its knees.

This kind of thing really scares me because it shows how easily someone, or some group of people, could rise to power.

DjCiD

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I find it strange that the whole internet is dependent upon these 13 servers, whos exact locations have been kept secret per US government.

This kind of thing really scares me because it shows how easily someone, or some group of people, could rise to power.

are these 13 servers the ones refeerred to as the Computer 'The Beast'?

so if these 13 went down then all the internet world wide would display 'page not found' or 'website not responding'?

What if something has alraedy come to power and thats why these 13 server locations are being kept secret...

Nyarlathotep

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IMHO, there are a lot of things to be scared of, not just the above. Let's not forget about the things that we have no knowledge of, except for a few select people... :-

Currently life is scary. I don't give it that much thought though, I might get so frightend that I'm not leaving my house and suspect even my family of consipirecy (sp?)...

quoudam72

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are these 13 servers the ones refeerred to as the Computer 'The Beast'?

I think maybe what you ask as to do with another 'Beast' not these 13 servers. Dr. Hanrick Eldeman, Chief Analyst of the Common Market Confederacy in Brussels, has revealed that a computerized restoration plan is already under way to straighten out world chaos. A crisis meeting in early 1974 brought together Common Market leaders, advisers and scientists at which time Dr. Eldeman unveiled "the Beast".

The Beast is a gigantic three story computer located in the administrative building of the headquarters of the Common Market.

That monster is a self-programming computer that has more than one hundred sources distributing entries. Experts in programming have perfected a plan that will handle by computer all of the world's trade.

This master plan would imply a system of digital enumeration of each human being of the earth. Thus the computer would give each inhabitant of the world a number to be used for each purchase or sale, removing the problem of present credit cards. This number would be invisibly tatooed by laser, either on the forehead or on the back of the hand. This would establish a walking credit card system. And the number could be seen only through infrared scanners, installed in special verification counters or in business places.

But this is considered by some to be a myth. :-

DjCiD

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The Beast is a gigantic three story computer located in the administrative building of the headquarters of the Common Market.ming computer that has more than one hundred sources distributing entries. Experts in programming have perfected a plan that will handle by computer all of the world's trade.

So, umm... whatever happend to that big ol' hunk of machine?

Where would you store it? Now adays dont you think the 3 story Monster Comp could fit on a few smaller ones?

Acriku

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The locations aren't technically in the shadow. We know the general location of these 13 servers, it's general knowledge for IT tech classes. Terrorists can if determined and patient destroy a good portion if they blow up a city or something. Learned this in IT tech class :D

gryphon

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I know the location of 3 of those root name servers.

But don't worry. If all 13 would some how fail to work, local domain servers would be able to keep up a running network within a matter of hours. Not as well structured as the internet is now [ ahum :P] but still pretty much workable.

And about that attack on the rootservers. Well, the idea was formed about 2 years ago by a well known hacker group. After the main members got arrested for one of there first big attacks a plan under the name of "the dat the internet stood still" was put on hold.

But still some one must have seen this comming. After the pentetration of SourceForge, Apache, and some big internet company I temporarely forgot the name of at this point early this year the plannes of "the day th einternet stood still" also suddenly appeard from the same hacker group [ wich will remain nameless for now ].

It was even placed upon a whitehat hackergroup's forum and one fo the US governmental intelligence services private bulletin board.

Think I recievd an email about it just before my summer vacation. It even mentioned a warning to the admins of the rootservers.

So in my opinion it's just plane stupidety and ignorance that they have ignored such a thread.

Acriku

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Of course there are Nema, the internet is weaved into our society and way of life too tightly for it to be taken lightly. And yes dj, yes we are ;)

gryphon

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There are. Theoretically every big name server could take over a part of that task.

But there arn't that much "real" failsafes. The internet itself sould function as a failsafe. That's the best there is. All others [ as shown with the root servers ] can be brought down. Shutting down millions of computers worldwide howeever is not that easy.

emprworm

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But don't worry. If all 13 would some how fail to work, local domain servers would be able to keep up a running network within a matter of hours.

i disagree with this. the way DNS is designed, all DNS servers ultimately point to a root server.

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gryphon

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That's not a required function for the internall network to be kept alive. So a lot of local net's would be formed. Then it's just a metter of time until Sun or Microsoft sends one of there tech geeks to make them communicate with eatch other.

DjCiD

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well what if all the power and lights and electrca stuff went down too... kinda like in the K. Russell movie Escape From L.A.

No lights to read in the dark... what i we had to go back to stone age and start over?

gryphon

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That's not related to the internet. All those systems are self sustained. If the Net goes down they probably won't even notice it.

And getting the power down world wide would be a real great trick.

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