Inoculator9 Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 I know that it's a good sign, but it could be used as a scapegoat. Polluters can now say that they can keep the level of polluting products that they currently have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboe Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 [quote author=Acriku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Rats.Ac, can you post a link to what you found, if possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 It isn't seasonal, the decreasing size during what you have said were normal, but this was to a higher degree. It's promising but it's just a start.I didn't find it on the internet I saw it on msnbc, but I'll look for it online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 i dont think the ozone hole is oil related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Do you mean, you don't think it was the result of oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 No, it's eaten by certain gasses (forgot the name)- like the ones used by some deodorants. Burning oil gives Co2, but that is not ozon related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Of course burning oil has an affect. If it didn't no one would care about using it. But it isn't the major contributer, house hold products are the major cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 Oil does not affect the ozon layer.And the major polluter is cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 it's eaten by certain gasses Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) are compounds containing carbon, chlorine and fluorine. Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) are sold under the trade name of Freons. Used as working fluids in refrigerators and air conditioners because they are gases at room temperature wich can be easily liquified by compression and because they are stable and non-toxic Used as foaming agents in the production of polystyrene and polyurethane foam plastics used for insulation and packing materials Used as a propellant in spray cans for paint, insect repellants, deodorants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 Yeah thanks that's the stuff I meant :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 ... but these have been made illegal in some countries - they are here - anywhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 Here deodorant use substitutes- though I don't know if it goes for other things, let alone if it is illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Isn't chlorine a CFC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 it is found in cfc's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 I doubt that any country could outlaw swimming pools with a straight face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 ... but these have been made illegal in some countries - they are here - anywhere else?Yes. About 10 years ago, scientist across the world met to discuss the theory of ozone depletion. It wasn't proven back then, fortuneately, the evidence was enough to warrant international legislation against chlorofrlourocarbons in all products. There are other ways to make air conditioners, fridges, and aerosol cans, so it didn't hurt any industry and really saved face of the southern continents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 I doubt that any country could outlaw swimming pools with a straight face.Chlorine is in pools, yes, but CFS (chloroflourocarbons) are NOT in pools. CFC is the name for a compound/mixture, it is unrelated to chlorine.Its like salt. Take chlorine (a poisionous substance), mix it with sodium and you get sodium chloride, an ionic compound also known as salt. Salt doesn't share the properties of of chlorine or sodium. It is a completely different subtance, so we can digest it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 I got mixed up, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 No worries. It's a bizzare concept in chemistry. What baffles me is that hydrogen and oxygen, two of the most flammable and fire-promoting gases in existance, form to make water, which as you surely know is the best way to fight fire. Wierd, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Yeah, a lot of wierd stuff, like metals melting at room temperature. Nutty :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 Yeah, a lot of wierd stuff, like metals melting at room temperature. Nutty :).huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 13, 2002 Author Share Posted October 13, 2002 Wich metals? Some metals are already liquid at room temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboe Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 Yeah, a lot of wierd stuff, like metals melting at room temperature. Nutty :).huh?Sure,Mercury (Hg), it's in liquid state at about 20 Celcious (293 K), i am not sure about the exact temperature. Wanna see ? See any termometer's bulb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 Many thermometers are alcoho-based, now; mercury based thermometers tend to be used less, due to the fact that if broken, you have some mildly poisonous metal on your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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