Desert_Eagle25 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Buddism sure doesnt. Hell, in Buddism you go to hell for just killing a chicken, unless u need it to survive of course.... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 oh and in russia...it would be ok for socor teams to have names like."Red devils""Better red than dead""Stallin""Lenin's!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Buddism sure doesnt. Hell, in Buddism you go to hell for just killing a chicken, unless u need it to survive of course.... :)But in saying that, you are saying they advocate peace with the animals are you not?So they advocate peace...[quote author=ExAtreides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 [quote author=ExAtreides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Buddism sure doesnt. Hell, in Buddism you go to hell for just killing a chicken, unless u need it to survive of course.... :)But in saying that, you are saying they advocate peace with the animals are you not?So they advocate peace...[quote author=ExAtreides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Ok, and Dust Scout, which part of "Thou shall not kill" don't you understand? Christianity is 100% against violence. Some idiots want to start wars in the name of God, but that's only an excuse. Religion is the excuse, not the cause.If I started a war in YOUR name (even though you explicitely told me not to), would that be your fault? Interesting... Very interesting... I can see where you're coming from and I admit that wasn't an angle I had considered. On the other hand, I'd be pretty pissed off if someone started a war in my name after I had told them not to, wouldn't I try to get them to stop rather than relying on all the stuff I'd done before? What I'm saying is, holy wars have been going on for centuries, wouldn't a deity have done something about it by now?And Emprworm, I didn't say (Or at least I don't think I said) anything about eliminating war by eliminating religion, although maybe my english was worded somewhat badly. But I do think that it would decrease the ammount of violence by a significant percentage.And humans kill because it is their nature. Our bodies are built to hunt, not graze, although some of that ability has been forsaken by the evolution of the brain, appologies to anyone who doesn't believe in evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 And Emprworm, I didn't say (Or at least I don't think I said) anything about eliminating war by eliminating religion, although maybe my english was worded somewhat badly. But I do think that it would decrease the ammount of violence by a significant percentage. it depends upon which religion you eliminate. if you eliminate Islam, then yes, you will eliminate a lot of violence. Islam was birthed in violence. The supreme leader and ultimate example for all Islam was Muhammad, a violent man who killed legions of people, conquering the entire Arabian penninsula with the sword.The supreme leader and ultimate example for Christianity is Jesus, a peaceful man who killed no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 And Emprworm, I didn't say (Or at least I don't think I said) anything about eliminating war by eliminating religion, although maybe my english was worded somewhat badly. But I do think that it would decrease the ammount of violence by a significant percentage. it depends upon which religion you eliminate. if you eliminate Islam, then yes, you will eliminate a lot of violence. Islam was birthed in violence. The supreme leader and ultimate example for all Islam was Muhammad, a violent man who killed legions of people, conquering the entire Arabian penninsula with the sword.The supreme leader and ultimate example for Christianity is Jesus, a peaceful man who killed no one. Be careful! Be VERY careful. Statements like that about religion or religious leaders/founders are a bad idea. They have a tendancy to become violent.I try to see things the fair way. MOST of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 The supreme leader and ultimate example for Christianity is Jesus, a peaceful man who killed no one. He may have been a good teacher, but letting people kill him and then in the Bible states how he died for everybody makes me confused on how you can call him a supreme leader. Let's follow his ways and all die willingly for that is what our supreme leader did, and maybe (just maybe!) we can be called great men with miracle powers in a best-seller book! **This is from an observer's point of view in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Whats that supposed to mean acriku? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 No wait, Jezus pulling out a knife and stab the people to death is a very good example for peace and love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Dont make me pull out my vendeta against you Kirov. I can always summon the mighty acriku against you too.lol well with his permission but I think he would say yes. hopefully. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Nooooo! Don't send Acriku against me with his Sarcasm... Nooooo His awful words! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Well I'll hold the [hide]mighty words of Myself[/hide] to Myself ;).TMA I was just wondering how an observer of Jesus's life would perceive things without knowledge of him as the messiah. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I was just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 It talks about it in the bible. Some people regarded him as the long awaited messiah. Some saw him as the reincarnated elijah (some jews did believe in reincarnation, bet some people didnt know that.) Some people believed he was another new prophet. The people that knew though by God's will that he was the messiah that would nto destroy the roman empire but the messiah that first had to redeem people from sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 In the matters of being a supreme leader I should have said...;) Not necessarily messiah, but someone's actions to be followed by example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 lol joe no worries geesh I was kidding. you got an opinion and I do. its all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Jezisko, co to tu o tebe kecaju tito voli?Only supreme leader of christians is God. Jesus was, and now Holy Father is his "ambassador" on Earth. If he redeemed us, I don't know, I'll find out after death. But he preached good things, which were loved by his followers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Jesus was known as 'The King of the Jews,' by some.Gosh, 'King of'... wonder what that means? He was, supposedly, a Jew while he lived. Bet that really fries some circuits... ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Only supreme leader of christians is God whom Jesus claimed to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Only supreme leader of christians is God whom Jesus claimed to be. Wasn't it the son of god he claimed to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptonite Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Jesus once said that (paraphrasing) "He who knows the Father (God) knows me and he that knows me knows the Father."Also, only God can forgive sins, and Jesus forgave sins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Dustscout: Answer is yes. He claimed to be both simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Dustscout: Answer is yes. He claimed to be both simultaneously. Being your own son? ... ... ... Maybe my grasp on genetics isn't very good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 easy way to look at it...take a three leaf clover, three seperate leaves but the same flower all together...the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit... the same yet different all in one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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