Stormwatch Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 According to the dune encyclopedia time line the first atomic bomb was tested about 14,255 B.G (before guild)this means thats 1940's our time. which means dune is set over 40,000 years in the future.While i was reading the book i had the image of present day humans in my head. But recently in world history class they described the periods between past human evolutions. some were as short as 10,000 years apartDo you think the characters in dune would be different from us.How would they evolve, would they evolve different from each other like the Tleilaxu seem to have. (they look like goblins)I wanted to hear from other dune fans.What is your take on this?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 That is an interesting concept, and I think they would have evolved to whatever fit their enviroment, making survival easier. Bigger lungs due to limited amount of oxygen, much taller due to less gravity, or much smaller due to more, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwatch Posted March 23, 2002 Author Share Posted March 23, 2002 Does anyone think this this theory could explain the fremans "water sickness" ( a sick feeling when a freman is far from arrakis).But the freman have only been on arrakis for about 1500-500 years. is this enough time to adapt to conditions on arrakis.A freind suggested that my theory was flawed that in dune because of the advanced technology and medicinecombined with the life extending spice people wouldn't need to evolve as they get detached from the enviroment ( Example: the mechanical sub terranian world of IX) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Yes, if you see how quick people addict to some things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Actually, it is 25,000 years in the future, not 40, 000.14,255 + 10,091 = 24, 346. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Is there a refferance in one of the books about this or is the DE the only one mentioning it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 I think Herbert himself is the guy who came up with Dune taking place 25,000 years in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwatch Posted March 23, 2002 Author Share Posted March 23, 2002 Okay i get it. but that still means the humans in dune would at least have evolved one or twice.even now scientists claim were noticing a change in us. Now, more and more people are born without their wisdom teeth. these teeth were rendered useless by fire and cooking, as wisdom teeth were used for tearing meat from bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Some examples of eveolution:1) Enhanced mental ability2) Increased agility, speed, and strength3) Lnger life-spans (even without the spice)4) Higher tolerance to pyschoactive drugs,5) Eveolved two forms of people: The Humans who have complete dominion over there bodies with there minds, and those who don't.6) Some people have developed such a higher tolerance to pyschoactive drugs that they become Revernd Mothers if female or Guild navigators if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 The intelligence would of course increase, since that is what happens right now!I read in a magazine that humans now take better advantage of their brain than people 2000 years, maybe less, ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Actually "you" don't say it, reader's digest says that and many other magazines and books. Pretty popular quote. And you would only just "read" the book? Appreciate the mastermind behind it and study within the words and context! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Humans would just b staring 2 evolve from its present 4m i rekon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Specific evolution is that unlikely, but almost everything evolves. The Tleilaxu seem to be one evolutionary product. Suboids and ixian middle classes another possible example. The guild, obviously - they were once human. And in general, people will be more resistant to disease and live longer, etc (partly as Mahdi says). Except:"1) Enhanced mental ability 2) Increased agility, speed, and strength "This will not be the same in all the population - nobles will be more intelligent (or brutal and rich - NB wealth is hereditary, even if it isn't genetic) - Slaves, serfs and manual labourers will be stronger, but possibly less resistant to propaganda (else they get shot). But it will vary between planets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 that makes sense. But wouldn't subiods and the tleilaxu be the result of genetic tampering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Even that is a form of evolution... those in the situation who did not have the acquired trait did not survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.