gryphon Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 You know, a ghost isn't the electrical impulses that go on in your head but then without a body. ::)
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 In this world is many things that we can`t explain, but it doesn`t mean that they don`t exist at all. I maybe laugh at poltergeists but from where I know I have right. This is only my opinion that I think they aren`t.
Sardauker-Kirov Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 *Grins* ;DYes, That's what scientist's believe. " No brain, No Life "" No blood, No DNA "Maybe there is something out there that doesn't need those things. Anyway's, Believe what you want. *Eats some candy*
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 Once again it's your opinion. You don't believe in ghost's, You are more of a Science guy with facts. I do believe in Ghost's, And still i do believe some thing's in science. Well, Black Magic and White Magic if you know what i mean. Voodoo etc etc etc. Yes, voodoo exist.
Acriku Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 Without blood, you can get dna from other things...And think about it, no brain - nothing telling nerve impulses, organs, blood, etc, where to go or what to do.
Sardauker-Kirov Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 And what if the "Thing" doesn't need a brain to live?For example a ghost?
gryphon Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 Not just scientists believe "no brain no live" ;DThe mind is not only the controle part of the biologoical human, but if vodoo and poltergeists exists, the mind is the part of the body that interacts with the speritual entety that has no phisical form.When you are talking about ghosts you are talking about the soul of a human [ or other ], not about electrical impulses in the brain.And mayby there is something out there that doesn't need any brains ?! That's exactly what we are talking about, so if you whould read the previous posts ::)And now what are you saying, "I believe this and you that. So you can't say anything to me because it's my believe and I believe in it ?!"Please, give some explenation for what you believe in.And this IS possible, even when you believe in "ghosts" you can give an explenation besides "I believe in it". ::)
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 We can`t explain ghosts cos nobody knows anything about them, we only can believe, so Kirov believe and its nothing wrong. If we knows something about them it wouldn`t be believe, it would be a fact.And when I talk about ghosts I don`t talk about soul, cos I don`t belive in soul, I try explain it to myself as something with science.
gryphon Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 Now that's absurd. If you can't explain anything you can't believe in it. Than waht do you believe in, just a word without meaning ? That word has to have some explenation, a couse to be able to believe in. So again, what is a ghost ?[ just don't say you don't know but it does exists and you know that ]An explenation doesn't have to be a scientifical, look at the things we've said about the Bible. A lot of them arn't scientifical or even explainable, but I have even used them to make some point clear.You don't believe in a soul but do in a ghost ? That's a contradiction, because a ghost is a soul, just one without a body. ::)
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 Did I said that I believe in ghosts? I said that I`m neutral in ghosts case few post ago...I just said that is nothing wrong believe in ghost but I didn`t said that I personaly believe. I don`t belive in ghost now, but I said that if I want explain it in science way, it could be energy...that only.
nampigai Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 Argh this is getting worse than Ricky Lake and Jerry Springer.
Terror Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 tell me about it.... i wonder where they all make this up... but anyways.... i dunno... i also have some feeling that magic may be true... as certain things are still unexplainable and i don't know in what other way this could happen.. magic might exist i think.
Acriku Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 And just to clear this "it can't be explained by science ever!" thing - of course! Now! But who is to say we can't in the future when we come upon theories and facts not comprehendable to us now, but is in the future? We cannot imagine those things because it is not comprehendable. So it is a dead end to use that in your argument.
The_old_worm Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 Exactly, Acriku. All of you are still saying that Ghosts and magic can not be explained scientifically. My point is that maybe they cannot be explained now by our current knowledge, but that doesn't mean they won't be explained later. The worst thing you can do is guess at the explainations and then believe in your guesses. That's what science does for us, it gives substance to our hypothesis.My hypothesis on Ghosts; I think Ghosts are dillusions of the mind. Perhaps at extreme emotional stress, our minds can create the illusions that we interperet as Ghosts. Also, perhaps in these extreme cases, our subconscious minds tap into some form of telekinesis which cause things to move, or maybe we just imagine things moving. I think most sightings are just flat our lies. The point is, that we need to look at these events scientifically. Eventually I think we will find the answers.To believe in Ghosts and magic is the same sort of blind faith as believing in God. You believe in something with no evidence to support your belief. There could be a million explainations for those things, yet you believe faithfully in them. That's blind faith, and it closes you off from other, possibly more likely explainations. The funny thing is, that there is actually more evidence for Ghosts and magic, than there is for God. Yet, people cling desperatly to their belief in God, while most question the existance of the paranormal.
Sardauker-Kirov Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 So you are saying that if we "Everytime" spot a ghost's its our imagination?Why does "Reports" always happen to people that doesn't even believe in ghost's and are very healthy. They even have proof of picture's of ghost's. FBI announced that the Picture's weren't messed or modified by computers.
Acriku Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 No, FBI say they haven't found any tampering with the pictures. Meaning there are still some to find, if any. And you know ghosts can be just a distortion of light taken into a picture at the right moment. And how do you know they never believed in ghosts? And we don't "Everytime" spot a ghost...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 They said it themselves. Their family and friend's said it themselves too.And your right, Some pic's just got messed a bit by light particle's, But some are just too weird to be a light particle on the camera. I was watching some of those pic's on Discovery channel and laughed at some of them.But when i saw some of the other's i shitted in my pants.
Acriku Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 Well seeing a chip shaped like Jesus will make some believe he has come back ;)And maybe you should some new pants...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 What has ghost's to do with Jezus? Now look who is getting offtopic :P
Acriku Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 It's called an analogy - just means people who see something with the slightest of resemblance to one thing, would take it and exaggerate it so much. Like the chip looking like Jesus, and people thinking it means he has come back.
Sardauker-Kirov Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 I have to agree with that. Last time i saw a dune map it looked like Feyd. :)Anyways, those thing's are natural.
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted April 1, 2002 Posted April 1, 2002 Like this woman from arabia, who saw word "Allah" into potatoe :)And I have seen many ghosts picture, it could be true, but before they don`t prove they are real ghosts, I can`t say that I belive it for sure, although some of them was very convincing.
The_old_worm Posted April 1, 2002 Posted April 1, 2002 I'm saying that most of the time Ghost sightings are probably lies, much of the time they are misinterperetation of natural events, and sometimes they are dillusions.
ordos45 Posted April 1, 2002 Author Posted April 1, 2002 Ghosts. Most of you may not believe in them but I do...I've actually seen some things that I can't explain other than possibly illusions created by my mind. Just don't go after them.
jacobdouds Posted April 1, 2002 Posted April 1, 2002 Remember when this used to be about religion?The fact is, there will always be something in this world you can't explain, and the more you discover, the more this is that can't be explained, wether ghosts exist or not may never be known, but some people believe so, and they may be right. Others believe otherwise, and they may be right.
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