please.....i want to use harkonnen....

[ricksam]

please...... :'(can someone tell me how to use harkonnen????

if someone can tell me ..... rea;;y thank you.. :'(

please.... :'(

[AWACS]

What do you mean by use harkonen??

if you mean strategies there is loads in Harkonen strategy section. If you go there that should help hope it does

[Timenn]

What do you mean? You mean strategies for Harkonnen?

I have here some strategies for Harkonnen vs human players:

http://www.dune2k.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=emperor-harkonnen;action=display;num=1019912108

[ken124578]

hey, those were first 2 links not 1

[Timenn]

Heh ???

[d3m0nger]

eaz 2 use harks, here a built order, hark vs atreides (qm setts offcourse):

building bo : fremen camp > factory > refinery (if needed)

unit bo : 8 feyds (use a few of them for worms) > 2 buzz assault tanks(only if atreides goes mino)

hark vs hark

building bo : sard > fact > ref > sard > sard

unit bo : 50 gun infantry > ALOT of buzz > zillion sards

hark vs ordos :

building bo : barracks > fact > ref > fact (more barracks if ordos goes lasers or sand dusty)

unit bo : 1000 gun infantry > alot of buzz (maybe inkvines if he builts 10 kobra's)

so there those were the bo's that got me high in ranks ,well good luck with them

cya

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ps : i don't use these bo's anymore i found out that there are even better ones:)

[ken124578]

oh yeah, morters/kobra's own light infantry and saws

[d3m0nger]

no they don't, a few harvey's will do the trick alright, n00b :P

[Devastator_Mech]

How?

[IxianMace]

I've found that most human players will rush you with Buzzsaws and Troopers. However, I've found that a Buzzsaw, Assault Tank, Missile Tank, Inkvine Catapult combo works quite well against a tight base. :)

[Devastator_Mech]

Unfortunately, missile tanks and inkvine cost too much for a early rush and also take too long to build, despite the tech tree required.

[IxianMace]

If you are short on cash and time, then forget about the Missile Tanks and Assault Tanks, just take Buzzsaws and Inkvines. In spite of what the strategy guide says, Inkvines are excellent against structures (except turrets). 3 catapults can dispose of a large building in a short while.

[Devastator_Mech]

But a few mongooses or lasers will quickly finish it off, but with missiles, they could be handle it much easier.

[IxianMace]

Never underestimate Buzzsaws. I got beaten a few times like that when I thought my Mongooses (with Atreides) and Laser Tanks (with Ordos) could handle them. The other guy just came with lots of Buzzsaws and went crazy. It was a bloody mess. >:( I have to admit though, if managed properly, Laser Tanks can pretty much take care of themselves with little support.

[Devastator_Mech]

Buzzsaws is too weak for me to estimate, so i wouldn't even think about them.

There's no way a laser tank could take care of themselves without your attention.

[IxianMace]

That's why I said 'if managed properly'. ;D You will be keeping them moving around, attacking and retreating, etc, etc.

[Devastator_Mech]

Don't you think you'll use your time more wisely by doing more important things than just concentrate on only a goup of lasers.

[IxianMace]

No, when you are attacking, the enemy will have to worry about how to defend. Inflicting damage/losses on the enemy using Laser Tanks can be a very effective way to slowly wear them down. Laser Tanks are also perfect for harvester hunting, due to their speed and damage against vehicles. A neat trick is to wait at a spice field for an enemy harvester/carryall combo. When the carryall touches down to drop off the harvester, the Laser Tanks will blast the carryall to bits, destroying the harvester in the process. :D

[Devastator_Mech]

Its more than obvious if your foe is thinking about how to defend, it would including how to defend the spices too.

[IxianMace]

When he is thinking defensively, he probably won't be thinking offensively, unless he is an agressive harkonnen player. It is important to be able to do many things at the same time, and track many situations at the same time. If you can do more things than your enemy is aware of, AND counter his attacks effectively, then you should be able to win quite easily.

Try playing a single HARD AI (preferably Atreides), with 5K, no pre-built, and on the map 'Sandy Pass'. It was surprisingly difficult the first time I tried it. Almost like how a human would attack. I recommend this if you want to improve your situational awareness skills. ;)

[Devastator_Mech]

No thanks, a HARD AI isn't in fact hard anymore for me.

Once i've counter my foe's offence group i'll rush my defence combo to my foe's base and try desperately finish their base off until no units are standing.

[IxianMace]

Just make sure that you actually DO finish off their base. Otherwise, you will be left with hardly any units, and if the enemey is still strong, you will be in trouble.

[Devastator_Mech]

I know, i have two defence group, one is the one i rush with, and for the other one, its my standard base defence combo and would never leave my base.

Plue, i never stop building units even when im attacking my foe.

[IxianMace]

If you never stop building units, do you set rally points for your factory/barracks, etc? On the large maps, you should never stop building units, but if you are on a non-spice map (e.g. Draconis: Plain, or Isles of Caladan), then you should keep an eye on your economy. That's why I like having Ix projectors around. They can save your life in wars of attrition, when conservation is important.

[Devastator_Mech]

Of course for sure, yeah, my allies are usually sard and Ix or Fremen and sard