Next US President?

[Dunenewt]

Come on people let's keep this civil.

[Edric O]

Yes, please do that, because the Dungeon is a lonely place...

[SandChigger]

Who's not civil? ;D

Language changes constantly, nothing we can do about it. (Kinda like death and income taxes, in a way. :P )

I guess one sign of getting old is when you start to think that the things people around you are saying sound stupider than shit?

[Dante]

Of course I'm arrogant, I'm British. Uppity ex-colonists should be grateful for whatever they get. :P

[Sneakgab]

I must be suffering from accelerated aging (and have been for many years). j/k

Well, actually, there ARE certain groups (in real life) that will make anybody feel ''old''.

[SandChigger]

That's what I love about the British: whatever else they lose, they'll always have attitude. :P

And that actually does count for something.

So ... question for Spazelord: Looking back through your posts, it seems you just got this Ron Paul/anti-IRS religion back in November. What changed?

I mean, you've been a member here since April 2004, but you didn't post anything about the presidential elections in that year. I'm just guessing here, but was this past election the first you could vote in? Are you just now facing having to start to pay income tax in larger amounts?

Sorry if I'm way off here, but you don't indicate your age in your profile and the amusing comment about me not having a high school diploma got me to wondering.

So, seriously, does Mr Paul advise people about how to go about NOT paying the income tax? Is there some formal declaration you're supposed to make, or do you just not send in the forms and your W-2s? (Ah ... W-2s. Most employers withhold a certain amount for your taxes from your monthly salary payments, right? How do you convince them not to? Just ask? If they go ahead and do it, though, how are you supposed to get that money back?)

Finally, what exactly are you yourself doing, or planning to do, about your taxes come this April? If you're really committed to this thing, you must have started doing something, right?

(That pass muster for civility, Dunenewt and Edric O? :) )

[Tatar Khan]

Most employers withhold a certain amount for your taxes from your monthly salary payments, right? How do you convince them not to? Just ask? If they go ahead and do it, though, how are you supposed to get that money back?

I am not sure bout US but in Canada it is possible to request the employer not to withhold income tax from your pay, it just that later you would have to pay it yourself.

[chatfsh]

Spazelord, if you really don't want to pay income taxes you should run for the US senate.  Apparently, senators don't have to pay taxes until they're selected to become a presidential cabinet member.

[SandChigger]

I am not sure bout US but in Canada it is possible to request the employer not to withhold income tax from your pay, it just that later you would have to pay it yourself.

Thanks for the info. I looked around a little, but I'm still not sure about the reality in the States. (As someone who never questioned the validity of the tax, I guess it never occurred to me to wonder about it.) I'm also having a hard time imagining why you wouldn't want it withheld, unless you were intending not to pay from the start.

Actually looking around turns up a lot of interesting stuff...

But regardless of the reason, arguing with tax protesters is like playing

[Tatar Khan]

Thanks for the info. I looked around a little, but I'm still not sure about the reality in the States. (As someone who never questioned the validity of the tax, I guess it never occurred to me to wonder about it.) I'm also having a hard time imagining why you wouldn't want it withheld, unless you were intending not to pay from the start.

Well in Canada this is done by people who always have tax returns in order to get their money to them faster rather give the government an interest free loan until they return it.

Very few people do it because usually only financial advisers do the calculations to determine if doing so is beneficial and since many people don't have proper financial advisers or do not always listen to them they don't d it.

[SandChigger]

OK. I just figured in cases like that you would inform your employer and have them adjust the withholding amount. (It's been a while now since I was employed in North America. ;) )

[Andrew]

Palin's Daughter Dumps Baby's Father

Who didn't see this coming?

The engagement was a pure political move do deflect the having baby out of wedlock which alienated religious republicans and made them look like hypocrites.