What is GOD?

[The Spac]

With the other thread going of how GOD could prove himself to us. I wish to know what each of you actually thinks GOD is. Feel free to say what you will without judgement from me I cannot speak for anyone else though. :-P I will post my view of GOD and his motives, as rediculous as they are, for all to see. :)

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I believe that god is a spirit.

I believe that GOD created the universe and the Earth for us and he created us in his image and he placed a bit of his spirit into each of us to give us our freewill and what was left of himself he placed into the creatures of the world to give them life, and what was left he put into the plants. He wished to give us the chance to become something better then what he had become.

When GOD became all-knowing he realised one major thing, that being all-knowing and all-powerful is not the heaven he believed it to be. He had become trapped in a dead-end, for believeing that he was all-knowing and all-powerful surpressed his once curious spirit. In essence it had become a hell. Essentially he realised the one thing that matters most it's not the ending that matters but the journey.

He hopes that we can grow as he did but he hopes we will find a better way then he did. He hopes we can be better then he ever was.

And I believe that this might not be the first time we have gone through this journey, that previous children of god may gone through this and we are now their creation once again trying to better ourselves. I believe that it is an infinate circle that we are going through.

I guess I could think of god in his current form as a bit of his spirit in everything. I would think of him as the universe trying to teach us, hoping that we become stronger from the trials we may go through and hoping that we take every good moment to heart when it is upon us, because everything comes to an end.

[Dante]

If believe that there is no god. Or that if there is one or many, the matter has little or no bearing on practical life.

[The Spac]

if there is one or many, the matter has little or no bearing on practical life.

That can be so true.

[Caid Ivik]

God is the infinite power which pushes possibility into existence. All other is just derived from it.

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[GUNWOUNDS]

Spac, i think you been watching too much Matrix.

[erjin999]

I get my beliefs of God from the books revealed to us.

What gets me is people coming up with their own beliefs of God. God has to fit to what they think/want him to be.

I want God to be a Round Bubble of Pink stuff that floats in the sky....erm, he can have a pony tail and a nice pair of sunglasses. He can...etc..etc..

People make up this stuff with no real idea why, or at least no explanation...

[The Spac]

matrix huh? Seriously I dunno how that compares.

[Caid Ivik]

Perhaps your point that we are creating an own world (dh life) out of God's path? That should open a question of what is this path, either if there is anybody on it or if it is even possible to deviate from it...

[nampigai]

God is made by power hungry men to control the mob!

[stefanhendriks]

Erjin,

Even those books you read to get 'your belief from' are written by men. As God himself has never wrote a book. Therefor i can write a book about how i see Life, call it "my bible".

The question is, do you believe what is written, or do you believe?

[GUNWOUNDS]

Erjin,

Even those books you read to get 'your belief from' are written by men. As God himself has never wrote a book. Therefor i can write a book about how i see Life, call it "my bible".

The question is, do you believe what is written, or do you believe?

Stefan,

God did write the books if he divinely inspired those men.  If Moses was on that mountain writing down what God commanded then God doesnt have to literally "write".

Its a question of whether you believe God  let His will be known to man and allowed man to record it.  So your example of writing your own bible is irrelevant.

[stefanhendriks]

If god could create the entire planet and universe, why would he let a man write a book for him?

The example is about its principle. A believe is not written in books, it lives in people themselves. Therefor i find my example VERY relevant. :)

[Dude_Doc]

God could very likely be some kind of energy, most likely an energy not to be found in this or any other universes.

[Acriku]

Obviously I have to answer this in terms of what I felt before I stopped believing...

God to me is the embodiment of the closest relationship you can have, and I felt so close to God. If you believe that he sees you in all spectrums, and still loves you, then he and you are something special and that helped being a kid with a shy personality.

[nampigai]

Obviously I have to answer this in terms of what I felt before I stopped believing...

God to me is the embodiment of the closest relationship you can have, and I felt so close to God. If you believe that he sees you in all spectrums, and still loves you, then he and you are something special and that helped being a kid with a shy personality.

When I was a kid my dad said a prayer with me every night - later on I had that feeling that if I didn't do something bad would happen - offcourse this wasn't true and offcourse bad things did happen. I'll never implant that feeling in any child of mine.

[nemafakei]

If there is a god, I would expect him to be a creator with no special moral purpose. Since the universe can be entirely defined on creation, the god would not be an interventionist one.

"God did write the books if he divinely inspired those men.  If Moses was on that mountain writing down what God commanded then God doesnt have to literally "write".

Its a question of whether you believe God  let His will be known to man and allowed man to record it.  So your example of writing your own bible is irrelevant."

You'd expect divinely inspired books to be written perfectly, that's the thing. Any god worth his ichor would write a NT in better Greek, for a start. With any holy book, you have to ask 'Is there any way a single word of this could be better?'. If the answer is yes, then why on earth (or elsewhere) would God write something like that?

That makes me expect any god without a holy book that is perfect to either be comprehensible from logic alone.

[Caid Ivik]

Inspiration was not in the grammatical form. All NT writers but St Paul were born Jews. There are many means of perfection, and the fact there can be something what would you like more does not mean that the thing was bad. Also, a language seems better for its user than to future generation, and even less for future linguists. Why King James' version was written in an obsolete grammatics? To be exact, God doesn't define Bible, nor vice versa, it's just notions of teachings of its avatar. You have weird premises, as you count with numerous gods with Bibles inspired to prophets; however, Bible has its own unique context, same as judeochristian concept of God. Certainly same applies for ie Vedas or Quran, which also have another context, as well as they present different gods - or different view on God, to say an opinion.

But why about the book, we don't need to make commentaries. You think you can understand anything by reading a book about it?

[Egeides]

Who is God? Let's try a statement...

I have a soul (a "me"). God is himself, and his actions are an extension. His action being perfect, darkness (absence of light) is created when obstacles bring shade hiding light. Otherwise, the rest is a bit like a part of the whole which took a distance from the main (humans).

Bible inspired by God:

Well I could say that some of my acts are "inspired by my parents". Some were inspired by God, by their inside (state of mind/feelings).

namp: Does the fact that power-hungry men use law make that law does not exist out of this context? Or "power-hungry use women" thus "women created by men"? ;D

Perhaps what was created is its use in such ways, not the essence of it.

[nampigai]

Inspiration was not in the grammatical form. All NT writers but St Paul were born Jews. There are many means

But the God in the NT and the angry God in the OT doesn't fit the same discription? In my opinion they are two completely different "gods"

namp: Does the fact that power-hungry men use law make that law does not exist out of this context? Or "power-hungry use women" thus "women created by men"? ;D

Perhaps what was created is its use in such ways, not the essence of it.

Ege : regarding laws - thats not my point - laws are made so that we all have a common guideline to live by - so that I can't go out and kill you and get away with it.

Religion and especially jewism, christianity and islam are made to subdue the masses into mindless idiots. To scare people to believe that if they don't believe they will burn in hell. - we are trying to get rid of AIDS - telling the third world to use condoms and in the same time the Vatican are telling them not to use condoms but to stop having sex! who the fuck are they to tell others what to do and what not to do if they like each others?

The same thing I see is going on in the states. I saw a program from the bible belt, where a PRIEST was giving lectures in sex, the best part was that he was talking to grown ups like they were freakin' kids! telling them that the man was like a microwave oven and the women a regular oven - so women needed more time to get "warm" - JEEEEBUS that some people honestly can take that serious from a religion who preaches love?

I'm sorry but I'm just furious atm, and in my eyes religion are nothing more than one big hoax.

[Caid Ivik]

Why not? In OT was the main theme differentiation from other cults, while in NT it was to deepen the cult itself. Same applies for terms of God. Both were focused on era-relatively important things. For example, if I write about you a biography, with first chapter about your professional life and then a next one about your psychic profile, does that mean there are two persons, about whom I write?

[nampigai]

in the OT we have an angry God killing tons of people - demanding a man to kill his son, and an eye for an eye.  In the NT we suddenly have one preaching love and turn the other cheek. Did he grow up when he became a father or what?

[Caid Ivik]

He sent a lamb instead of his son - test of faith. Don't take it out of context. There is history of control and covenants, granting wisdom and freedom first to a tribe, than to one nation and then to all. Again, God is same, just humans changed.

[Acriku]

I can hardly see that it is the same god in the OT and the NT. The behaviors of both drastically changed and flipflopped. How does one go from stoning children to loving thy neighbor without changing?

[Caid Ivik]

Does God throw a stone?

[Acriku]

While he doesn't stone children himself, he has destroyed two cities full of innocent children, and flooded an entire world with innocent children. Even yet, he condones and orders children to be stoned, e.g. if they disrespect their parents they are to be stoned.