Why is he called the Red Duke

[TheRedDuke05]

Pretending the prequals didn't exist, how come Duke Leto is called the Red Duke? I rememeber the Sardukar calling him that, but did it really describe why he is called that?

[gunner154]

Because the Atreides flag was red and he was a Duke?

[TheRedDuke05]

The Atreidies flag is green and black  ::)

[gunner154]

I thought it was red? Hm... the last time I read the first Dune book about 3 to 4 years ago... better re-read it... after I'm done with chapterhouse :)

[TheRedDuke05]

Ahh chapter house, probably the most boring of the Frank Herbert Books. I can't blame you if it takes you like 4 months to finishing that book.

[Dante]

Of the six of them, I thought Chapterhouse was the best. Closely followed by the original.

[TheRedDuke05]

It was very confusing though, I mean who where the Handelers? How did The Weapon work? Who where those people who keep phasing in and out in front of Duncan? I was totally confused by the time I finished reading the book.

And does anyone have an answer to my orginal question?

[Andrew]

Not that I know of. Yueh says(thinks/thought) only the emperor calls him the red duke.

Chapterhouse was good. If you think it was confusing read it again sometime. It should be easier to read. Although you will be left with all the same questions, but it makes it funner to fill in the blanks with whatever you want to think.

More confusing is trying to read heretics of Dune before reading god emperor of dune :P

[TheRedDuke05]

And his Sardukar  ;D

[3ngel]

Chapterhouse is without doubt the most "easy" book of the six.

Absolutely the most complex is Heretics, followed by God Emperor.

[gunner154]

I thought God Emperor was the most complex.

[Andrew]

I thought God Emperor was the most complex.

For me it was the fact that I had gotten used to the Duniverse, then Frank jumped 5000 years into the future, and you had to learn everything over again. The same thing happens with Heretics (no-ships wtf? ;)).

[nampigai]

I've allways had the idea that he was called the red-Duke because he had "communist" tendencies? 

[Chosenone]

^ I would agree with that too, because he was all "with the people", but in the year 10,191 AG, I think communism would have been ignored completely, let alone reconize red for it's color.

[GhostHunter]

It's mentioned somewhere in the prequels I think, and once (possibly) in Dune. It has something to do with some battle tendency or something.

[Mahdi]

I do beleive it is suggested to be a nickname that's multi-generational, with all the Atreides Dukes being called the Red Duke.

[Danuary]

Pretending the prequals didn't exist, how come Duke Leto is called the Red Duke? I rememeber the Sardukar calling him that, but did it really describe why he is called that?

Actually Gunner is right, the Atreides hawk is red. I don't know this is true of emperor but in dune 2000 the Atreides hawk is blue and the the harkonennen bull is red with glowing eyes. I imagine that this was done to show non dune fans the "evil" and "good" houses of the dune universe.

Anyways this seems like a good thread to ask; could someone refresh my memory as to who the Honored Matres are?