Anathema Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Nope. Take it from somebody who studies law at a university, a life sentence is a life sentence. It's possible though that you can be released prematurely for some reason (good behaviour, for example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Life sentence is the most laughable form of alibism I've ever seen. State not enough brutal to kill and yet not enough courageous to honor one's divine right for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 don't worry, here in the states we have the muslim extremists and hte crazy christain fundamentalists that bomb abortion clinics and beat up homosexualsour world is a sick place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m0nger Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Nope. Take it from somebody who studies law at a university, a life sentence is a life sentence. It's possible though that you can be released prematurely for some reason (good behaviour, for example).Weird, I was told from various people that in ANY case a life sentence isn't a life time in jail, but nvm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 it isn't, you havea life sentance yet you really get 30years with parole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m0nger Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Yes that's what I mean, In The Netherlands it's more like 20 years with parole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 it isn't, you havea life sentance yet you really get 30years with paroleAnd what do you know about the Dutch legal system? ::)I think I'll put it in more simple wording:life sentence = life sentenceDimwits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 our world is a sick placeI like this american saying about "our world"Â ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m0nger Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 And what do you know about the Dutch legal system? ::)I think I'll put it in more simple wording:life sentence = life sentenceDimwits.Well it does not matter what the law says, Mohammed B will probabley get about the same sentence as volkert van der G. which is 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozared Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 And what do you know about the Dutch legal system? ::)I think I'll put it in more simple wording:life sentence = life sentenceDimwits.You absolutly don't know anything about holland"Life" sentence is approximatly 15 years.Murder - max 15 years, if massa murderRape - like 10 years (my guess)Stealing/Use of violence - 5 years MAX, normally around and often below 2 yearsStealing (lesser things, like trying to steal a bicycle) - up to 1 yearI know, i know, it sucks.Mozared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.htmlSo any chance the bombing of this Muslim elementary school is a hate crime of revenge over the death of Van Gogh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 I don't think so, i think it were the children who go to that school..They wanted to have a day off ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 You absolutly don't know anything about holland"Life" sentence is approximatly 15 years.Murder - max 15 years, if massa murderRape - like 10 years (my guess)Stealing/Use of violence - 5 years MAX, normally around and often below 2 yearsStealing (lesser things, like trying to steal a bicycle) - up to 1 yearI know, i know, it sucks.MozaredMozared you don't know the first thing what you're talking about, I am Dutch, and on top of that I'm a law student, so STFU.Artikel 10, lid 1, Wetboek van StrafrechtThe prison penalty is life long or temporaryMurder is punished with either life long imprisonment or a temporary imprisonment of 20 years max (12 years in practice) and rape is punished with 12 years max (8 years in practice). The other crimes you mentioned I don't know without looking it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m0nger Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.htmlSo any chance the bombing of this Muslim elementary school is a hate crime of revenge over the death of Van Gogh?Yep, and that isn't the only thing that has happend here these past few days, and also there was a train that went to Amsterdam from The Hague and at 1 AM, all the lights went off and a voice through the intercom said 'This train is in control of the Jihad'. I can't imagine what that must've been like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted November 9, 2004 Author Share Posted November 9, 2004 That would be such a brilliant thing to try on April Fools' day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Better not to travel that day ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 How sad...things go out of control so often. At least no one aside from Van Gogh has died yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m0nger Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 It's getting worse, yesterday the second Muslim school was burned to the ground, markings on the wall: ''Theo van gogh R.I.P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I remember now words of one slovak liberal: "Nederlands should become a model for what we must reach once." Wise man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 And today there are problems in The Hague.A couple of suspected terrorists are in a flat. The police tried to enter the flat last night and a handgranade exploded injuring 3 policemen.Now the whole street is blocked and nobody is allowed to enter. Snipers, police military etc....This looks like war zone..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 This is all shattering my stereotype perceptions of the Netherlands being a nice and calm place.There have been more than a dozen arson attacks in the Netherlands against churches and mosques since Van Gogh's killing in Amsterdam more than a week ago. An Islamic school in Eindhoven was bombed Monday night, and another in Uden was burned down Tuesday. No injuries were reported.http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/10/netherlands.raid.ap/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyarlathotep Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 This is all shattering my stereotype perceptions of the Netherlands being a nice and calm place.It was... Until someone shot Van Gogh. It's gone down hill ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Well, i was wondering when it would finally happen, other people taking revenge on islamic people/houses/whatever considering all the **** they do thesedays. (not only in the netherlands) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 Mozared, flaming people because they quote facts is a good way to populate the dungeon (and doesn't do the perceived image of your own intelligence any good, either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 And what do you know about the Dutch legal system? ::)I think I'll put it in more simple wording:life sentence = life sentenceDimwits.I wasn't clear was I? In american, a life sentace is merely 30years with parolethat's soem states. In the south, if you commit a murder such as that of van goghs then you are almost gaurenteed capitol punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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