nemafakei Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 It's not the conditioning itself, but the part of the human psyche on which it hinges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Nema's right, there are two specific terms which you guys haven't got yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Sardaukar Posted November 12, 2004 Author Share Posted November 12, 2004 Nema's right, there are two specific terms which you guys haven't got yet.Well, Mr. SmartyPants, why don't you give it a shot. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Just one will do... though the other's not too dissimilar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 oooh! oooh! lol I want to try.Write in a short paragraph what the amtal rule is. You have to be specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tako Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 I think the rule is that you first give an correct anwser and then you make up a new question...but as things are going now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Yah, I don't think anyone got Nema's question, and it has been a couple weeks.So give us the answer! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tako Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 please do so I can move on whit my life..can't sleep you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 You need tos et a limit so that if no one gets it after 2 or three days the next question gets aasked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HasimirFenring Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 You need tos et a limit so that if no one gets it after 2 or three days the next question gets aasked.You've hinted that you know the answer! Tell us! Answer it! We're all dying to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 See, I don't know the answer. I jsut know that Nema is correct ins tating that there is one and none of you ahve posted it. I read the book again at the start of september and remember the two terms beign stated, but not what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezcatlipoca Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Pyretic Conscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Also known as 'Conscience of Fire' for hopefully obvious reasons. Thankyou!You see, it wasn't that hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezcatlipoca Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Easy: What was the Sardaukar insurgent's (the ones planted in Gurney's smuggler group) *original* main objective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 My guess is to kill Maud'Dib, but that is because I remember the miniseries so well. :P (So I am biased to what the miniseries did, and therefor probably wrong.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezcatlipoca Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Correct:  Paul saw motion beyond the Sardaukar, Chani and Stilgar werestanding in the other passage. He returned his attention to theSardaukar, staring into the offworld whites of the spokesman'seyes. "You, what is your name?" Paul demanded.  The man stiffened, glanced left and right.  "Don't try it," Paul said. "It's obvious to me that you wereordered to seek out and destroy Muad'Dib. I'll warrant you werethe ones suggested seeking spice in the deep desert."Dune, P.420 June '84 edition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tako Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Pyretic ConsciencePyretic ConscienceDoes anyone know the dutch translation to this because it does'nt ring a bell and I've red the book many time's though not lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 amtal rule!! somebody guess what the amtal rule is!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose212 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Amtal RuleIn order to know a thing well, one must know it's limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Pyretic Consciousness! Why didn't I remember that?Anyway, here's my answer to TMA's question:The Amtal Rule is the idea that a thing can only be fully understood by knowing the limits of the thing. And in order to truly know these limits, one must push the thing beyond them which. Essentially, the only way the nature of something can truly be known is by destroying it. In practise, this was to be used to determine whether someone has been posessed by a consciousness from Other Memory (i.e. an "Abomination"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose212 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 In Fremen culture, what is a "Water Bond"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tako Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 a bond that tottaly defies our rule of blood being thicker than water ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 yay vanguard! lolyeah the amtal rule has always interested me. The "amtal rule" has been around for a long time, usually in extremely spiritual cultures. Look at the colonies for example. Many of the forms of punishment in the american colonies that involved witches were usually that kind of matter. If the witch died during a test, say, in the swimming test. If the witch died of drowning then it showed she was not a witch, but if she floated that means she was and then she was either killed, or branded, or many other kinds of tortures. That kind of thing has gone on for millenia, just an interesting side note. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Agreed. One of my "favourite" Trials-by-Fire was an Arabic thing, where a guy had to lick a hot bronze ladle-like utensil that had been sitting in the fire three times. If the wound festered (which, of course, it would), he was guilty of the crime for which he was accused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Not purley an arabic thing Vangaurd.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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