Bin Laden Alive?

[Andrew]

Ha!

Bin Laden: U.S. security depends on policy

New tape from Osama bin Laden airs

Another reason why Bush should go.

Seems Osama is alive and well.

I don't think he would vote for Bush. ;D

Although maybe Kerry or Nader.

So since the U.S. was meddling with middle east affairs, this angered some people, so they pre-emptively attacked U.S. Sept. 11.

Now If I was Bush, I would have sent all those soldiers in Iraq out to find Osama (who is not in Iraq), which would have surely found him. Since Osama admitted to attacking sept 11, this shows that Bush was completely wrong about everything. Saddam didnt attack the US and kill almost 3000 people, Osama did.

GG Osama and Bush.

Osama 2, Bush 0

[Jack Leaf]

Uh... and when did Bush attack to Iraq to catch Osama?

Clone of the war.

[Andrew]

Exactly. He should have been searching for Osama who has killed 3000 americans, yet he went after Iraq. Because they had WMD, which they actually didn't.

Jon Stewart points that out clearly and easily.

[Edric O]

I don't think he would vote for Bush. ;D

Actually, he probably would. Bush's war on terror is a gold mine of propaganda for Bin Laden in Arab countries. As long as Bush stays in power in America, Bin Laden can use him for panic-mongering in the Arab world (in much the same way Bush uses Bin Laden for panic-mongering in America):

"The Americans attack us because they hate Islam and they hate freedom. You heard what their infidel president said, and you saw what he did to our fellow believers in Iraq. He will not stop until he has enslaved all our countries. The Americans will come to your home, rape your wives and kill your children. Join Al-Qaeda! We are the only hope to protect your property and your loved ones from the barbaric American crusaders."

That is the general message of Al-Qaeda propaganda, and Bush is playing right into their hands by confirming the fears of millions of Arabs. Bin Laden probably considers Bush to be very useful.

Of course, Kerry would pursue much the same foreign policy as Bush, so Bin Laden most likely doesn't care who wins this election. But if someone like Nader, for example, became President, then Bin Laden would be in serious trouble, because his propaganda will seem more and more hollow; his recruiting rate will drop, and many of his existing recruits will feel that they've accomplished their mission and there's no point in carrying on the fight.

Since Osama admitted to attacking sept 11, this shows that Bush was completely wrong about everything. Saddam didnt attack the US and kill almost 3000 people, Osama did.

We've always known that Saddam had nothing to do with Sept.11... Bush didn't go after Saddam for 9/11-related issues, he went after Saddam because he had weapons of mass destruction... erm, I mean he had the capability to build WMD's... well, actually, because he was a very, very bad man who was thinking of attacking the US with a pea-shooter.

[ordos45]

Actually, he probably would. Bush's war on terror is a gold mine of propaganda for Bin Laden in Arab countries. As long as Bush stays in power in America, Bin Laden can use him for panic-mongering in the Arab world (in much the same way Bush uses Bin Laden for panic-mongering in America):

Quite.

[TMA_1]

"just another reason not to vote for bush"

hmm, and you think that if kerry was in office, that he would have taken osama? I dont think so. I think that you guys are suffering from "the glory days" syndrome. You forget what other presidents were like, so you then blame bush for all the problems of america.

First of all, most people it seems dont realize how much power presidents DONT have. ALso people seem to glaringly forget that there are two other political castes in our system of government. We have a thing called "checks and balances" here in america, which limits the power of each wing of the government.

Why do people think that somehow bush is to blame for osama not being caught? I can guarintee that the slow wheels of american government would work just the same with any other president. You guys shouldnt be so blinded by the hype of people like michael moore and others who relaly just create an upstir, and that is about it.

[Dante]

The fall guy might as well be the guy at the top. Especially as his policies seem to centre around the religious right, anti-enviroment, and warmongering. Any excuse to get rid of him is fine by me.

Besides, Kerry might not have much of a chance of catching Osama, but he hasn't had a chance yet. That and perhaps he might turn his mind to something more importnat.

[Andrew]

Bush's government screwed up, so they should get replaced.

I'm sure Bush could have not invaded Iraq.

Ok, maybe with Gore as president he would have done the exact same thing as Bush. But the people need to blame someone for the crazy shit that happened since 2001. The right person to blame would be Bush and his government. I don't see how you could blame any other person in America.

I havnt seen any of michael moore's films.

I do watch Jon Stewart on the Daily Show who is for Kerry and Against Bush. But it is so true what he says.

[TMA_1]

those are extremely generalistic statements. I have yet to see somebody who is unbiased and fair to attack bush. I wsih somebody would have the maturity to do so, sheesh.

[Dante]

Can you suggest anything we might say against Bush that you would take seriously?

[Kiyouta]

Since Osma Bin Laden is living in the US, It makes sense for Bush to show him off - to remind the American people of the threat they face. Gets Bush the votes. :P

Now, for those of you people who don't think he is in the US, perhaps Osma decided to produce this video to swade people to vote Bush - who is after all, Al-qeaida's (Spelt wrong, naturally) best recruitment tool. :)

[Dante]

It makes sense. I mean, while people are combing Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc; who'd think of looking in a small apartment in New York, where he's actually staying?

[Andrew]

Osama is a greeter at a Wal-Mart in Manitoba.

[VigilVirus]

That is the general message of Al-Qaeda propaganda, and Bush is playing right into their hands by confirming the fears of millions of Arabs. Bin Laden probably considers Bush to be very useful.

Of course, Kerry would pursue much the same foreign policy as Bush, so Bin Laden most likely doesn't care who wins this election. But if someone like Nader, for example, became President, then Bin Laden would be in serious trouble, because his propaganda will seem more and more hollow; his recruiting rate will drop, and many of his existing recruits will feel that they've accomplished their mission and there's no point in carrying on the fight.

Wouldn't the mission be accomplished though? Or what do you think Osama's actual objective is? To completely annihilate the US? I would hope he's more intelligent than that.

[Andrew]

I think his objective is to get foreigners out of his country/region. Since they are messing with it. If it means attacking the USA to keep them out, then I guess he will do that.

[Digital Guerrilla]

It is obvious that Bin Laden resurfacing is a clever political ploy.

[Andrew]

Oh, no Bin laden is alive!

He is super evil!

Bush will protect us!

[Kiyouta]

Yup :)

4 MORE YEARS!! 4 MORE YEARS!!! :P

[Edric O]

First of all, most people it seems dont realize how much power presidents DONT have. ALso people seem to glaringly forget that there are two other political castes in our system of government. We have a thing called "checks and balances" here in america, which limits the power of each wing of the government.

Don't worry - Bush is working hard to overcome that little impediment. ;)

Why do people think that somehow bush is to blame for osama not being caught?

I certainly agree that Bush cannot be blamed for not capturing Bin Laden, but he is to blame for a hundred other things.

I have yet to see somebody who is unbiased and fair to attack bush.

If someone attacks Bush, then he's obviously not unbiased, is he? He's against Bush. So what you're asking for is quite self-contradictory...

4 MORE YEARS!! 4 MORE YEARS!!! :P

Don't you mean...

;D

[Andrew]

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[Dude_Doc]

And I am sure that the administration in Washington never knew, until today, that them saying terrorist treaths are imminent, that Muslims are bad and all wouldn't fuel bin Laden's Al-Qaida.

Oh, I liked Kerry's "we will capture and kill the terrorists", yes, that will surely work....

It's quite ironical, that just after the attacks, they linked Al-Qaida with the ancient Assassins (maybe also known as Hashashin), a secret "sect" of assassins in the ancient Arabic world. It's strange that not many papers talked about Bush's and Kerry's involvement with Skulls and Bones...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin