Exam Results Thread

[exping]

"I think there is a problem with ur MOST and HARD"

First most means there must be exceptions.

I would rather say that those working hard ONLY may achoeve good results for him ( of course becoz a good result for him may not be one for me or for any other persons).

Why the word only is so important is that there are those who work very very hard and do achieve bad grades---they had overworked which can be in several ways e.g not going out with friends after returning from home they go and work and work till late.

Moreover does the one who have achieved good grades need congratulations : OF COuRSE NOT becoz the one praising these ppl do not know if the latter have achieved good grades for themselves.THe praise should go like this only seeing the positive aspect of the persons whether he fails or pass or whatever.

[Dante]

So you're saying that people who work hard and fail are more worthy of praise than people who get good grades without trying?

[Dunenewt]

Maths: A*

English: B

English Literature: B

Biology: A

Chemistry: A

Physics: B

French: A*

German: B (Going to ask for a re-mark or something)

Business Studies: C (I don't care)

Geography: B

R.E: A (Did last year)

[lowzeewee]

Dunenewt, you nerd! :D

FYI, James Beattie, the Southampton striker, actually could have been a doctor but he chose to kick a stupid ball, so should you, Chris. ;D Leeds needs some personnel.

[exping]

Exactly. Effort counts results no. However in this society it is the contrary because in fact no human being in this planet knows really what a person is doing: is he working hard or not. E.g a child having  fun with his friend all the day is not necessarily not working as there is a further 12 hours left for another day to start.

[Dante]

But here in the real world, where people are expected to be good at their jobs and not just incompetantly try hard, results matter and effort takes second place.

[Cyborg]

Really, I don't care about resultless effort...

I know trying hard is a plus, but without a decent result, I don't think effort counts very much.

It counts for something. In school, it sometimes count also, as you aren't supposed to be an expert in everything, but at least make an effort...

[exping]

NOno finally at the end you had understand nothing or maybe so.Ambrose Bierce who i think was born in 1842 or 1843 said the brain is apparatus with which we think that we think. Everybody is born with the same intelligence but we must know how to exploit them. You are telling that a good result means that a person will work better than one not. A person won A's for his upper level schooling and how could he not work as well as the one who got B's. Results are really nothing for  working ONLY for university which afterall is stupid. Someone having a good result does not mean that he is better than someone having a bad result. The contrary is moost sure right. 

[exping]

Let me tell u sth : an'''''outstanding'''''' person(A) was qualified for a tournament of town. He had indeed a very good result. Another(B) one was not qualified as he was told to be less brilliant. PER A looked down upon PER B.He avoided him thinking that he is much better than B which is of course avery trivial matter. PER A is so arrogant and stupid and this attitude will finally @kill@ him.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS NOT UR RESULT BUT UR WILL POWERR TO DO STh. Having A's are good for the stupid university but not...

After all have u read the TIMES showing how good universities like Oxford in UK e.g are making their students pass exams and so on.

[Cyborg]

The power to do sth is the power to achieve results.

Wasn't results what we wanted?

[nemafakei]

"Someone having a good result does not mean that he is better than someone having a bad result. The contrary is moost sure right"

You're saying that all those with Es are better than those with As?

" as he was told to be less brilliant"

At this point, I think the english language has defeated you.

"After all have u read the TIMES showing how good universities like Oxford in UK e.g are making their students pass exams and so on"

The scandal!

[Dante]

I think someone got a bad result and is trying to claim that it doesn't matter...

[Dunenewt]

Yeah, I know the feeling, read the comment for my worse exam result in this thread.

[Khan]

But it is true that modern education is just about passing tests and not inspiring(SP?) kids to learn. That's why I'm fighting the system  ;D

[Dunenewt]

Yup, that about sums it up, schools nowadays are just exam factories.

[Dante]

The more people who pass exams, the less exclusive they become and the more devalued. It's a stupid way to run a system...

Ironically.

[nemafakei]

You can't fight until you have a weapon. Not with any chance of success.

Do not oppose the system, sidestep it wherever possible, score blows only when you can afford to. Then, when you have extracted as much from the system as is fit for digestion, supplemented by what you find for yourself, you will be strong enough to break the system down and set it straight again, giving opportunities to future generations.

Schools are often forced to teach to curricula and to examinations, and that is disappointing. The problem is that students may well understand a subject perfectly - yet the examination format may require that they give answers matching the mark scheme, rather than, in some cases, the student's opinion, and in others, reality (respectively).

[Ice_Cube]

I swear I started a thread for this stuff about a year ago.....

AS levels:

Mathmatics: A

Economics: A

Chemistry: A

Geography: A

General Studies: C - don't give a rats ass

Congrats to all, esp. Nema who seems to have excelled.

[exping]

"Someone having a good result does not mean that he is better than someone having a bad result. The contrary is moost sure right"

You're saying that all those with Es are better than those with As?

" as he was told to be less brilliant"

At this point, I think the english language has defeated you.

"After all have u read the TIMES showing how good universities like Oxford in UK e.g are making their students pass exams and so on"

The scandal!

What do u mean by eng lang has defeated you? Brilliant means cleversuccessful.....

AND nobody or very few is understanding sth.I never mentioned  directly that sbd having E's better than A's I ONLY SAID THAT IT DEPENDS ON UR WORKING OR WAYS OF WORKING. not someone getting E's AND not working and it is only he who will know that (i.e if he does not work).

About the scandal i do not know . strange enough those(not all) coming from UK will say that it is a scandal.

[EWS]

Unless they are passing through non-honest means (ie. cheating) then there is not really a scandel.  I certainly have not heard anything on a scandal.  And I live in the UK!

I am also gessing that sth means something and sbd means somebody.  Why can you not just use the whole words?

Brilliant can mean many more things.  It genereally means that you are really good at something though, or something was really good.

If someone works to the best of their abilities and gets E's, then it may be more fulfilling then someone not working at all and getting A's!

[nemafakei]

"What do u mean by eng lang has defeated you? Brilliant means cleversuccessful....."

I wasn't talking about the vocabulary, so much as the syntax.

"AND nobody or very few is understanding sth."

I know.

"I never mentioned  directly that sbd having E's better than A's"

You did not merely say that A grades do not imply being better, but went as far as to say that the contrary was true.

"About the scandal i do not know . strange enough those(not all) coming from UK will say that it is a scandal"

Nope. Lost me again.

My response was sarcasm. It is clearly not a scandal that universities require that you take examinations. How else can they differenciate between candidates' abilities? Do you propose that universities should take whoever applies?

[exping]

Conclusion: since nobody wants to understand anything or very few:

U should have understood the idea which is :

Someone getting A?s by learning by heart does not mean that he has achieve a lot.Everybody who makes an effort in life will reach his objective but it may not be so for some. Many get E?s and did not learn preferring to go with friends and peers thinking which fingers are used to smoke or whatever. These people do not need any success till they realise what they are doing is bad. However for them it may be success as they did not learn anything and manage to succeed. On the other hand someone who has failed to achieve what he wanted although he had worked very hard (and this will work most probably had not been done on a long time basis because then he must have achieved what he wanted) does not mean that he is an idiot as now he knows how he needs to work and knows how to manage the time. This person may have got C?s or B?s OR A?s and he is not satisfied--- somebody scoring 80% and another one 98% will both have A?s and both can still improve . Moreover someone may have A?s and is not among the top in the society.

MOST  IMPORTANTLY THOSE NOT ACHIEVING SUCCESS( AND ONLY THEY WILL KNOW THAT) HAVE NOT BEEN KNOWING HOW TO WORK OR HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR A VERY SHORT TIME ( AND IT IS FOR THEM THAT I AM WRITING) WILL REACH THEIR GOALS IF THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT WILL AND HARD WORK AND PERSEVERANCE. DO NOT BOTHER WITH THOSE HAVING VERY GOOD RESULTS AND U NOT. NEVER COMPARE ONLY WHEN IT WILL MAKE you GOOD.

Do not forget what Oscar Wilde said education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught.

??????My response was sarcasm. It is clearly not a scandal that universities require that you take examinations. How else can they differenciate between candidates' abilities? Do you propose that universities should take whoever applies?????

I said that the universities are setting exams and those that should have failed are being passed. And I never said that universities should take all applications. This is an institution and u like or not an institution which will never know which is the best candidate despite looking at their results before taking.

What I have said most of u did not agree and I did not meant that those getting A?s through hard work should stop.

@@@@@@@@@@These above ideas- conveyed -in conference-people not agree-hands were up-like firecrackers ?..

EWS sorry i now did not used sbd etc..

HAve a nice life now u people?!!THANKS however

It seems for some of you that i am a student..LOL

[Dante]

Honest question: Is English your first language?

I still think what you're saying is that results are no indication of 'success' in that people who do badly can still 'succeed' on their own terms by trying hard, or by getting a C when they were predicted to fail. This is what my interpretation of what you are saying is.

Nevertheless, people who get an A in a subject will, if the result is accurate, know more about that subject and be more able to use that knowledge than someone who got a C, no matter how hard either of them tried. Results, regardless of personal success, matter.

[EWS]

I personally do not like exams, all they are really, are a test of memory.  Retention and not ability.

[Super-ness]

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