Casualty Report

[Wolf]

Why would you post that here? The link from CNN is a pure graphical analysis of confirmed casualties. If this were disinformation, it would have been disproven by now. They have the names, ages, faces, ranks, and descriptions-of-death of every Coalition casualty.

This cannot possibly be disinformation, because what's posted here is simply data. No newscasters. No opinions. Just data. CNN just collected all of it first.

I'm actually offended that you said that. Insult anything you want, but never insult data. Pure disinformation? What's Fox to you, then? The Devils's Own Lies?

[DRFsimmsy]

Never insult data? Surely you realise how much statistics can be distorted to support the agenda of whoever is presenting it? Statistics can be used to prove anything, 43% of all people know this.

I'm sorry you were offended, but sometimes the truth hurts.

[Wolf]

(long pause)

Have you even looked at the casualty reports? It's not even presented in a slanted way. It's actually just data.

Oh, and "the truth hurts?" Prove it. Show me how those casuality statistics are slanted, and show me who they are slanted for. You say that CNN has a hidden agenda with displaying casualty reports, then show me the agenda. Tell me about all of these horrible "truths" that I cannot see.

Jeez, its not even the "truth" that offends me. What offends me is the possibility that you've just been talking without even having looked at the statistics themselves.

[DRFsimmsy]

I can't post the truth because they delete my posts. (They've also been brainwashed, you see)

[Gobalopper]

If you can prove your accusations you are free to post them. Just blaming things on the Jews is not evidence.

[ordos45]

If you can prove your accusations you are free to post them. Just blaming things on the Jews is not evidence.

Exactly, and it was one post.

[Wolf]

Wait, what happened?

[Edric O]

Who gone and hijacked what again?

Gob deleted one of DRFsimmsy's posts in this topic, because it was anti-semitic flame-baiting. Look in the Dungeon.

[Dunenewt]

We can't.

[Ninja_Sher]

If you can prove your accusations you are free to post them. Just blaming things on the Jews is not evidence.

The best thing to do when you can not have hard evidence is to  :-X, of course if you are powerful enough to take actions you do not need prove, like some of ...........

[DRFsimmsy]

Karl Marx (a jew) also helped found one of the most tyrannical and destructive ideologies known : communism

[GUNWOUNDS]

Karl Marx (a jew) also helped found one of the most tyrannical and destructive ideologies known : communism

oh man... Edrico is gonna have a aneurysm when he reads that.

[Edric O]

oh man... Edrico is gonna have a aneurysm when he reads that.

No, not at all - now, if a person who actually posessed a brain said something like that, I might get worried that my explanations of what communism is and what we stand for haven't been clear enough. But from someone like DRFsimmsy, I expect idiotic strawmen.

Now, let us disect this gem, shall we?

Karl Marx (a jew) also helped found one of the most tyrannical and destructive ideologies known: communism

Please excuse me while I laugh my head off for a few minutes...

Not only is that statement incorrect, it's also absolutely hillarious, seeing how it comes from a (quasi-)neo-nazi.

In technical terms, DRF, you have commited both the fallacy of ad hominem (whether Marx was a Jew or a little green man from Mars is irrelevant as far as communism is concerned), and the fallacy of straw man (communism is far from "tyrannical and destructive" - quite the contrary; Communism is a system of direct democracy in both political and economic matters, a system with no private property and no state, which functions according to the principle "From each, according to his ability, to each according to his needs"; It should NOT be confused with socialism, and both communism and socialism should NOT be confused with stalinism, which is the system that operated in the Soviet Union & co.)

But why don't you tell me what you think "communism" is, and then we can work from there.

As for the matter of "things invented by Jews", what religion are you? If you're a Christian, I hope you realize that you're following a system of beliefs that was also invented by a Jew - Jesus Christ. Or how about the realm of physics? Are you familiar with the Theory of Relativity, and its inventor?

[Caid Ivik]

Well, EdricO is back in full power, as I can see from his typical memetic concert  ;D  But take it clear: pointing at someone's nationality doesn't instantly mean nazism. In jewish philosophy, since Moishe, trough Filon, Jesus, Maimonides, Spinoza to Marx and Buber, you can find very often a factor of "philosophy as a tool".  Wisdom has no meaning without use, it was given to (or made by) us to change the world. As an atheized materialist, Marx only changed the reason of using this wisdom, as well as whole process of application, where he adopted more Hegel's thoughts, which were more typical for german spirit. Summing up, saying that nationality or any other cultural influence is irrelevant and uncovers some "evil spirit" inside is only a populistic prejudice, avoiding deep analysis of the thing.

Fact that jewish philosophy is an active tool (changing world for us) of course isn't perfectly looked upon by those passive (changing us for world). That spawned antisemitism, but also a perfect synthesis of both ansichts, as only that was how we could explain "world" and "us".

[DRFsimmsy]

You call me a neo-nazi and a christian. The two do not meld together well.

In fact I am neither, but I oppose globalism, immigration and racial/cultural destruction.

Sure Jews are intelligent. That and their religion and values is what has kept them around for thousands of years.

Ok I admit I'm no expert on communism, but as far as I know it involves all money being controlled by the state, as in all the money you earn goes straight to the government who dispense it where necessary.

[Dante]

You call me a neo-nazi and a christian. The two do not meld together well.

In fact I am neither, but I oppose globalism, immigration and racial/cultural destruction.

They meld together wonderfully! Xenophobia, racism, elitism, sexism, fanatical devotion to ideals that those in charge themselves do not practice... Perfect union.

You're neither? Well you could put yourself across better, that's all I can say. I would launch into the various self-contradictory pieces of the statement, but I want to watch any floudering justifications that may emerge first so that I can deal with it all in one go.

Sure Jews are intelligent. That and their religion and values is what has kept them around for thousands of years.

Racism, quite clearly. Singling out any group for a particular trait is racist, even without comparison to others. In case this is not clear I shall list similar examples:

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  * "Black people are stronger."
  * "White people are smarter."
  * "Jews are smart."
  * "Blondes are dim."

I remind you, DRFsimmsy, that with the exception of the last example you have used phrases similar to those with the same meaning (I paraphrased because I couldn't be bothered looking up the quote). If you are not a racist then you are disguising it extremely well.

Ok I admit I'm no expert on communism, but as far as I know it involves all money being controlled by the state, as in all the money you earn goes straight to the government who dispense it where necessary.

I'm sure Edric will be extremely frustrated to enlighten you.

[GUNWOUNDS]

You call me a neo-nazi and a christian. The two do not meld together well.

In fact I am neither, but I oppose globalism, immigration and racial/cultural destruction.

As for christianity, I suggest this website : http://www.fuckchrist.com

Sure Jews are intelligent. That and their religion and values is what has kept them around for thousands of years.

Ok I admit I'm no expert on communism, but as far as I know it involves all money being controlled by the state, as in all the money you earn goes straight to the government who dispense it where necessary.

I am sicked by ur shallow attitudes to people of other creeds and religons. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. DRFsimmsy I bet you've never met a Jew in your life. So how can you point the blame at something you've never actually seen happening?

Hey Crusher and DFRsimmsy you two might want apologize to each other.

[Caid Ivik]

They meld together wonderfully! Xenophobia, racism, elitism, sexism, fanatical devotion to ideals that those in charge themselves do not practice... Perfect union.

You're neither? Well you could put yourself across better, that's all I can say. I would launch into the various self-contradictory pieces of the statement, but I want to watch any floudering justifications that may emerge first so that I can deal with it all in one go.

Just explain where is christianity xenophobic, elitist, sexist (?) or has people "in charge"... Think twice, write once, for if you want to judge simmsy's prejudice, you should be aware of your own.

[Dante]

Gunwounds:

Rules and FAQ states:

Unless you are a moderator do not reply to threads acting as one. If the moderators feel a thread is improper or should be moved they will do it themselves.

Caid:

Well that was partly deliberate but if you insist...

Xenophobic: Medieval tendancy to turn on Jews if anything went wrong, Crusades, practice of 'Christian' peoples throughout history to ostracise other peoples including, but not limited to, American Indians, Australian Aborigines, Black Africans...

Elitist: Any social structure with a hierarchy is elitist. It goes with the territory.

Sexist: Women's place in the bible, subservience of women in all Christian countries until very recently...

In charge: Again, with the hierarchy. Popes, Bishops, Priests, etc... They have leadership, do they not? Then they are in charge.

I wasn't saying any of these things are inherantly bad (though I do not support sexism or xenophobia), I was just pointing out similarities and making no judgement on them.

[GUNWOUNDS]

Gunwounds:

Rules and FAQ states:

Unless you are a moderator do not reply to threads acting as one. If the moderators feel a thread is improper or should be moved they will do it themselves.

I am well aware of that and that is why i said to him that he M I G H T

[Dante]

Don't play about with semantics. Also, don't patronise me.

[GUNWOUNDS]

Don't play about with semantics. Also, don't patronise me.

semantics?  i am sure you understand the difference between a command, a suggestion, a warning, etc, etc....  if we worried about semantics  24/7 we would never be able to post anything. 

[Dante]

What you said doesn't matter. What matters is what you meant, which was not 'friendly advice.' Hence the second post being pretty much semantics; pointing out the difference between what was said and what was meant and hoping that it will fool someone.

[GUNWOUNDS]

What you said doesn't matter. What matters is what you meant, which was not 'friendly advice.' Hence the second post being pretty much semantics; pointing out the difference between what was said and what was meant and hoping that it will fool someone.

if i posted that i liked bananas and you thought that i meant i liked oranges .... then that is entirely your fault.

friendly advice does not equal a moderator's command

[Dante]

Perhaps you should have phrased what you wrote better.