Emperor 2

[Chris Longpre]

Oh, and a completely new AI model.  (Given current spec PCs, some time & money to develop, there are some cool new things to be done...  and nobody doing them yet!)

--Chris

[Dunenewt]

I wish I had kept a copy of the Emp2 proposal .. would be interesting to back and read it nowadays.. :)

Why you little.......don't tease us like that! lol

[Gobalopper]

Hey Chris I still have a copy of that proposal. ;)

[Dunenewt]

Post it!

[Chris Longpre]

Oh the tease .. (sorry, I feel bad now.)  :)

Seriously, there was a complete proposal with concept art, units, sides, everything.  We pitched it to the execs September 8th, 2001.  It was turned down.. for a number of reasons... most not having to do with the game proposal.  Most definitely due to poor forcasts on a sequel title.

I intentionally did not take a copy with me when I left Westwood, as I knew it would be too tempting to have in my possession.

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Much like... (dare, I tease again..??... ah shucks, its 2am .. nobody is looking..)

the Emperor DVD version I found last night in an old box.

Yup.  I found this box in my closet, thinking all these years it was my last case of "Into the Void", another game I produced ..which barely saw the light of day (longer story).  When I went to open it, I a bunch of stuff from my Westwood desk.  This was the very last box I packed, quickly, as they stood in my door ready to push me out the front door.  I just sweeped the last few stacks of stuff into this box, and left.

Besides a couple of fresh, unopened Emperor boxed copies (which I needed, as I loaned out my opened box), I found the DVD version that Tim Fritz & I made in early October, 2001.  It's the full version 1.09, with all the map packs, the editor, trailers, screenshots, marketing kit, etc. etc.  I belive the main EXE is identical to v1.09 you all have, but the installer was rev'd to work off the DVD.

Anyhoo...  I'll have to go see what else is in that box .. who knows.. I was too sleepy to get past the top layer...

;)

--Chris

[Chris Longpre]

Here is a picture of the DVD directory .. looks like we put some other stuff in there too!

--Chris

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[lowzeewee]

Just wondering...with the Guild now being some terror in the universe after trying to control Arrakis with the Emperor Worm, how would the sequel be?

[Harkdawg]

Low, emperor worm got killed and teilaxu and guild defeated. Although only those glowing eyes in the dark remain mystery.

[lowzeewee]

I mean...who would provide the inter-space transportation without the Guild? :O

[Gobalopper]

The Emperor Worm is dead, and with it the diseased dreams of the Guild and Tleilaxu.

But this attack was only part of a bigger, more horrific picture.

Plans within plans within plans

[Chris Longpre]

shhhhhh.......

;)

[Dunenewt]

Why can't you post it all?  Legal reasons?

[Dunenewt]

Oh and two more things, do you think you could post the concept art, and explain this:

[erjin999]

The other Chris does not seem to be in a mood to reply !

I would also like to see better support for multiplayer online when we play with more than 4 players. I know it was only intended to be played with 4 max, but with XWIS allowing....loads  :O...I would like to see a better way to swap units around. Also maybe a way to put markers on the screen that only your partners can see (it would show up on radar, of course !).

It can be a real pain having to un-ally, then re-ally when handing buildings or units to one partner when you have more than one...

[Dunenewt]

Also in skirmish mode, creating teams and choosing your position like you could in YR would have been good.

[erjin999]

Creating teams ? like saying computerPlayer 1 & 2 will be on the same team, and me and computerPlayer 3 will be on the same team ?

[Dunenewt]

Yes, like that.  And a better map maker would have been nice, and more game modes.

[erjin999]

Also....although this might count more as a bug fix than much else, but had better be included in any Emperor:battle for Dune 2 game; The ability to quit a multiplayer game that fails to load properly because one player crashes. Often enough it can need a reboot. Sometimes I can be lucky and get back to windows desktop or task manager....but not always.

[lowzeewee]

Oh and two more things, do you think you could post the concept art, and explain this:

Where the hell you got that from?

[Apollyon]

The model is contained in the game files. It's called TLDoom.

[JulesG]

It is also an incomplete model, the construction model looks different to the standard model, textures are missing and the xbf is missing the frames that control selection and health (you cant select it in the game to attack), so it was obviously an idea they discarded fairly early on.

[lowzeewee]

Tleilaxu doom cannon? :O

[JulesG]

I dont think anyone has ever found out what the Superweapon was to be, but the central funnel was obviously where "x" was to come out of. I expect it was to be a biological weapon - perhaps they planned to have some sort of mutation weapon (like App put in his mod In The Destroyers Grip).

[cyberotter]

i personally feel a simple expansion pack ( with a good publisher and good advertising ) would have alot of people return to this game ( lets face it, its graphics are as good as the current rts )

[lowzeewee]

But people have already been embedded in other newer games and an expansion pack means same graphics-type and now current games have better graphics than this.