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Constantinople fell sometime in the 15th century, after that the Russian prince Ivan III married a cousin of the last Byzanthian emperor and declared himself ceasar, wich is what the word czar actually is. Moscow was considered to be the "third Rome", whereas Constantinople was the second.

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Word caesar is now in most slavonic languages what you mean by emperor. In western "cisar", eastern und southern "car". Germans have also "kaiser". Just you english have only "emperor"...  :-

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Constantinople fell sometime in the 15th century, after that the Russian prince Ivan III married a cousin of the last Byzanthian emperor and declared himself ceasar, wich is what the word czar actually is. Moscow was considered to be the "third Rome", whereas Constantinople was the second.

Constaninople fell in 1453, to mehed II and the Ottomans...  ;)

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Has anyone noticed that americans most commonly refer to the title as "Czar" whereas most other english speaking ppl call it "Tzar"?

Am I missing something here? or have other ppl noticed?

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We've noticed. We just don't care much.  :P  I think someone gave an explanation for it once but I sure don't know where. I think it was Caid.

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Title of emperor was adopted by Ivan III., already in 15th century.

It was Ivan IV (The Dreadful) the first to call himself "tsar" (in 1547). And the emperor title was introduced by Peter the Great. If anyone's interested, I can post a file with all the tsar's names, including the time of their reigns.

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We Dutch call the Russian rulers "tsaar", it's all derived from the same word, ceasar. Same for the German word "kaiser" and the Dutch word "keizer".

The word "emperor" is an inaccurate word btw. In the Roman age, imperium was the legal authority to make laws and binding decisions, wich of course the ceasars possesed, but at times it also belonged to other public figures like the praetor (wich mostly handled legal affairs, and who only had the position for one year) and the consuls (2 had to share this position, again for a year). But in common speach "emperor" is understood as a person who rules by himself for as long as he lives.

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"Emperor" means "tsar", or "cбr"...read previous posts next time.

In Russian, there are both words 'tsar' and 'emperor' (pronounced as 'imperator', just like in Latin). Before Peter the Great, no tsar called himself 'emperor' cuz it was Latin, and 'ancient' borrowings were all made through Greek due to the influence of the Byzantian church and culture. E.g. some of Russian tsars had the name 'Vasiliy' which is derived from Greek 'basileus' meaning 'ruler'. Only after Peter the Great, vast cultural interchanges between Russia and Western Eourope began. Thus the borrowing of 'imperator'. That's that. :)

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