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well clearly Spain did something to make terrorists happy. 

Good for them.

I hope I, too, get the honor of doing something to make terrorists content with me.

::)

Posted

Not everything that makes terrorists happy is bad, and not everything that makes terrorists angry is good.

If you guide your every decision by the desire to disagree with the terrorists, you let yourself be easily manipulated.

Posted

Not everything that makes terrorists happy is bad, and not everything that makes terrorists angry is good.

If you guide your every decision by the desire to disagree with the terrorists, you let yourself be easily manipulated.

if you guide your decisions to match the desire of terrorists, you let yourself be easily manipulated

Posted

But the thing is, I couldn't care less what the terrorists want. And the Spaniards also couldn't care less. They made their decision based on what was best for Spain, and the Spanish people. And then you come and say that the decision is bad because it makes terrorists happy.

The terrorists are not the issue here. The Spanish people are. If the desires of the Spanish people happened to coincide with those of the terrorists, does that mean the Spaniards should have changed their opinions just for the sake of pissing off the terrorists?

You want to disagree with the terrorists at all costs. I say screw the terrorists, and let's make our decisions independently of what they want or don't want.

Posted

"They made their decision based on what was best for Spain, and the Spanish people"

funny that no one seems to care about whats best for Iraqi's

greedy selfish spanish.

I'm glad that America thinks about other people, rather than just themselves.

Posted

funny that no one seems to care about whats best for Iraqi's

greedy selfish spanish.

Oh, that's right, the best thing for the Iraqis is to have foreign occupation forces in their country! And the Spaniards are really selfish for not wanting to sacrifice their brothers and their children for the greater glory of Spanish corporations. They're really selfish for wanting to let the Iraqis rule their own country rather than oppressing them for their own good. ::)

I'm glad that America thinks about other people, rather than just themselves.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... sorry... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... I just... I just can't stop laughing! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ;D ;D ;D

Posted

Oh, that's right, the best thing for the Iraqis is to have foreign occupation forces in their country!

according to them, yes.  THe americans are their not against the wishes of Iraq, but according to them.  Iraqi's want us to stay there until the new government is stable.  Its none of your business, since its not your country.  What part of "CONSENTING NATIONS" do you not understand?  Or are you going to keep imposing your will on other people?  Stay out.  Quit imposing.

Posted

The problem was that the former government, under Aznar, lied to their people trying to blame the bombing on a group that didn't do it. When the truth came out they couldn't be trusted.

Posted

I think if they were perfectly content with us that'd mean we wouldn't still be getting shot at and bombed..

so using this argument, since people in california murder people every day (gang shootings and such), therefore people in America are not content with their government.

uhhh...good one.

Posted

so using this argument, since people in california murder people every day (gang shootings and such), therefore people in America are not content with their government.

uhhh...good one.

nice point....hehe wow man you fire the repsonses back like a m60 machine gun hehe... you need to work in one of those washington "think tanks"

Posted

all major cities have gang violence, I fail to see how california is suddenly gang central, next time don't use my state as a general, use cities such as compton, or even LA but CA in general? no.

Posted

Actually, about Iraqi's wanting America there?  Thats a big fat lie.  How do I know?  I happen to know about 30 people who were sent to Iraq as they were in the British Air Force.  The Americans are hated.  Iraqis dont like the Americans, they dont want them there.

They spit at Americans, throw stones and all sorts.  BUt I am not saying that it isnt the same for the brits, but the Brits are treated better than the Americans.

[now time for one of those many polls that he has up his sleeve]

Posted

brits are more liked than the american troops?

i remember one british commander allowing his men to take off their helmets and vests as it was very hot and tiresome... and the iraqis took advantage of this as they mobbed, shot, and murdered the unarmored troops...

man if thats love for the brits.. i wonder what they would do to the americans...

:O

They blow them up in suicide missions

Posted

unfortunately your the minority.... i would wager that the bush - haters outnumber the bush advocates

More people supported the war than were against it.

Posted

Where did you get that Newt? I did once read a poll that said 75% of the Britons would support the war- if it would get UN approval, wich wasn't the case.

I'm actually quite dissapointed in Spain. Regardless of wether you supported the war, it's already been fought, get over it. It sends the wrong signal to terrorists, and it would be better if many countries were involved in stabilising Iraq.

Still, it's mostly the fault of the conservatives who tried to cover up the fact that it was al-Quada who did the attack.

Posted

Yes Brits are more liked than American troops as Brits dont have this "cowboy" attitude.  Brits are more caring towards the Iraqi citizens.  We have isolated incidents with attacks, but more often than not you hear about Iraqis killing Americans, rather than the Brits.  And the Brits are as much there as the americans.

Posted

Where did you get that Newt? I did once read a poll that said 75% of the Britons would support the war- if it would get UN approval, wich wasn't the case.

From the Daily Telegraph

brits are more liked than the american troops?

i remember one british commander allowing his men to take off their helmets and vests as it was very hot and tiresome... and the iraqis took advantage of this as they mobbed, shot, and murdered the unarmored troops...

man if thats love for the brits.. i wonder what they would do to the americans...

:O

That's just made up.

Posted

Technically its not, but it wasnt as bad as that.  They were wearing helemts and protection, but they were mobbed as soon as they let their guard down.

Posted

"i remember one british commander allowing his men to take off their helmets and vests as it was very hot and tiresome... and the iraqis took advantage of this as they mobbed, shot, and murdered the unarmored troops..."

It's not actually made up. Within a week or so of the occupation of Basra, all british occupying forcer went into berets etc. to make themselves seem more approachable and so on.

At some point, yes, British soldiers have been attacked. But I'll wager they've been resented less and so attacked less because they've tried to look less menacing.

"More people supported the war than were against it. "

This was the case at one point shortly afterwards, for rather obvious social reasons. However the majority here opposed the war unless given another UN resolution.

Posted

so using this argument, since people in california murder people every day (gang shootings and such), therefore people in America are not content with their government.

uhhh...good one.

We, as a Government, are still getting bombed/shot/rioted, your example pertains to people shooting on another in California for various reasons, not against the government though.

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