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Caid Ivik

Caid Ivik

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Depends on what you need as an evidence. How can I believe there was some Churchill, Bonaparte, Pribina or Nabukadnezar. It is difficult to prove they existed, and also impossible to say ie what were their intentions as well.

Caid Ivik

Caid Ivik

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So, we can say every living human is a miracle, in cosmic scale it is really an extraordinary thing, not talking about his own creation. Do you believe at least there was a Roman Empire two millenia ago? What makes you sure that ie Colosseum wasn't built just few years ago?

Acriku

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Truth is Caid, I'm not sure at all. If I was an archaeologist, I can weigh the evidence to see if it's atleast likely that there was a Roman Empire sometime in history. But, the Roman Empire has been talked about by many accounts all over Europe, so it's more likely than not. That's the thing about history, there's no way to know for sure so you just have to weigh the evidence.

EWS

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Hold on, thought Jesus was the son of God???

Further, yes Nav is right.  There is evidence that a Jesus of Nazarath existed and was crucified on a cross.  If I remember from the Documentry I saw, then there is no evidence of what he did, except that he lead a group of people.

EWS

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To be honest, I do not know much about religion (just what I have been taught) so can I ask where the saying "Father, son and the Holy Ghost" comes from?  Surely Father is reference to God, Son is reference to Jesus, but I don't know what the holy ghost is.

Wait, I think I might get it, are they ther 3 parts to were talking about?

Navaros

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To be honest, I do not know much about religion (just what I have been taught) so can I ask where the saying "Father, son and the Holy Ghost" comes from?

EWS

EWS

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Just a small request, but any chance you can speak to me in a more polite manner?

Anyway, but in the bible did God not say to Mary "You will become pregnant with my son"  If he said that, then surely God and Jesus are two completly seperate things.

Anwyay, I personally believe that all religion is just a big cult!!!!!!

Filo

Filo

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hindus have also their trinity :

Brahma, the creator (3 headed one) : each time he sleeps, it's the end of one cycle of universe (let's say from big bang to big crunch), when he begins a kalpa (one of his daytime) a new cycle begins.

Vishnu, the protector (4 handed one) :  he appeared 8 times in the story of humanity to intervene against evil ; one of these 8 avatars was Rama, one other was Krishna.

and Shiva, the destructor (in a positive way), he's also the master of dance (Natraj). He's the mightest.

Since shri Aurobindo, hinduism, although its many different gods, refers to one and only divine essence, seen as many facets, called Brahman. Another name for God?

Your comments about this issue are uneducated and profusely ignorant.

Acriku

Acriku

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Filo - you're 100%  WRONG when you say there is no evidence of Jesus.  ALL credible historians AGREE THAT JESUS EXISTED.  Your comments about this issue are uneducated and profusely ignorant.  Do some real research (ie:  not your atheist propaganda sites) before posting such nonsense.

Credible? I highly doubt that. It's been mentioned already that the sources of the recanting of Jesus' life are questionable, especially since most if not all of the recants are from decades to centuries after-the-fact.

Can you support your insane assertion that all credible historians agree that Jesus existed? I doubt it.

About saying it is impossible to prove that Jesus is God:  also an entirely false statement.  Those who really believe in Jesus have the Holy Spirit upon them.  It is a power and strength like none other you'll ever feel on this Earth.  Non-Christians never get to feel that.  But if they felt it even just once, they too would acknowledge that it's 100% proof that Jesus is God.

That's not proving Jesus is God. Experiences and feelings are highly suspect and very susceptible to bias and fallibility. Where's your evidence of Jesus turning water into blood? You have none, because as I said it's impossible to provide evidence that Jesus performed such miracles.
Caid Ivik

Caid Ivik

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In those times many historians were talking about Jupiter Optimus et Maximus, should we talk about him as historical person just because there is much written evidence?

Acriku

Acriku

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um wasn't it water to wine? or are you talking about a differant miracle? because water to blood was moses

Yeah, I must have confused the two. No matter though.

Considering how he is deemed a mythological character, any writings of him are not taken of evidence that he existed, rather of man's imagination. Which is what would go along with the writings of the miracles Jesus performed, pure imagination. Fascinating, but mythological.

Caid Ivik

Caid Ivik

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Agamemnon, Nabukadnezar or Arjuna were considered as mythological persons too. Why do they are in historical books between other "historically proven" kings?

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