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Egeides

Egeides

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I know that you didn't wrote that to show you were disagreeing with me, but I disagreed with you on some points and wished to state my position on the subject :)

TMA_1

TMA_1

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oookay.lol

I didnt think the definition of propaganda I used was an issue, maybe you just dont define it the same way as me (well, that is obvious.hehe) But You must agree that writing about a huge jewish conspiracy just to take attention away from a crumbling monarchy is propaganda, dont you?

sorry for taking this subject off topic.

Egeides

Egeides

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To me, "propaganda" is not about being true or false. It's about having a hidden agenda behind what is written and to try to promote it "in the shaddow", knowing that . In their case, I would simply say that I don't know if they have a hidden agenda, but they seem in canon with Mein Kampf... Anyway, what they say seems false and based on what may bring an audience, towards those who now see immigrants as trouble makers: some Americans, and some Europeans.

Edric O

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propaganda

1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.

2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.

Usually, the word "propaganda" is used with a negative connotation. When we say propaganda, we think about lies disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause. But you can also have propaganda which is perfectly true.

The problem with propaganda is not that it is false (because, as I said, it can just as easily be true). The problem is that propaganda is made up of extremely simplistic arguments. Instead of presenting the full complexity of a situation, propaganda reduces it to a few simple terms that can be easily understood.

However, you shouldn't always blame the propagandists: They often have no choice but to use simplistic arguments and slogans if they want to be heard in the marketplace of ideas. The real blame lies with the people who swallow propaganda without thinking about it. Propaganda isn't necessarely bad as long as you look at it with a critical eye and think for yourself.

True Egeides, though I did consider the post without just dismissing. Even Edrico says that communism could only come about with good propogandists on the commie side.

When did I ever say that?

I despise propaganda. I always try to explain my arguments in detail and to present the full complexity of a situation. Especially when I discuss communism. That's why my posts tend to be much longer than Caid's... ;)

We don't need good propagandists on our side. We need dedicated people with good debating skills, and people who can make the case for communism through actions, not words. (for example, rather than spending money on propaganda, a communist organization should open up a hostel for the homeless, or raise money to help the poor, or help workers get organized and defend their rights)

thomas

thomas

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Communist Jews propanda is truth, same goes for the protocols of elder zions..

what more ?

ok so jews are communists now and the propaganda is truth soo . . . Jews are trying to take over the world? and their really is a JJL (Jewish Justice LEague, watch comedy centrals hebrew hammer)? oh and BTW their are no communist jewish states and I've never heard of a jewish communist party either.

just looked at your website all in arabic, you're from malaysia add that to your statment annnd . . .

your credibility just went negative

leo

leo

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Just to mention:

Actually there is a communistic party in the Israeli parliament. But guess what? Its members are Arabs.

leo

leo

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why people always understatement for critizing Jews plot while your friends manipulted to plot us ?

I means your perception to Islam ?

There is a difference between criticism and racism.

thomas

thomas

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why people always understatement for critizing Jews plot while your friends manipulted to plot us ?

I means your perception to Islam ?

it's not my perception of Islam, it's my gathering of the info on your post that made my opinion of yourself not your religion. I don't find anything wrong with islam or anyother religion, I just find it wrong when people take their religions teachings the wrong way.

Mahdi

Mahdi

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Well, it's NeoLogiX, so it has to be at least anti-semitic. I'm more confused by the "protocols of elder zions" part...

I believe he's talking about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

A well-known Nazi forgery used as an excuse for the holocaust.

Kinf of like the "evidence" in the Dreyfus Affair you mean?

NeoLogiX

NeoLogiX

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Zionist have both, right

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There is a difference between criticism and racism.

NeoLogiX couldn't be antisemite, I critizing the way you look to arabs always make themself as the next '21 century scapegoat'

BTW, The arabs remain in Zionist part should be eliminite as the founders

alchemi2

alchemi2

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I bet the Jews secretly ran Saddams regime and thats why he killed so many Arabs and other members of Islam. Hence why he went to war with Iran and invaded Kuwait. The only reason America and allies then invaded was to cover up the Jews involvement, as he had decided to tell the UN about his Jewish advisors. And we all no that al-kida is really a secret Jewish society and the Talibans aims in Afganistan was to eradicate the indgenous populations so that a second jewish state could be formed. ;)

thomas

thomas

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this is supposed to be a serious thread and it's Al-Queda not al-kida and how can Saddam Hussein run a regime run by Jews if he launched 22 SCUD Missles at Israel?

TMA_1

TMA_1

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hello guys!!!??? the protocols were what I was talking about! egeides argued with me that it was not propaganda, it is, and that is what I was getting at this whole time, dont you guys agree??lol

Atomic Mitten

Atomic Mitten

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I suggest you read the Protocols, digest the information and think about it.

It seems to me that they are uncanilly accurate.

If you read how they were dismissed as a forgery,then you can apreciate what they mean.

I for one have never been particularily fanatical in any way, I believe in live and let live, but, reading the Protocols has forced me to think again, about the world situation.

Especially the financial side of the Protocols, 15,16 and 17.

As I said before read them first, then reply to this thread.

Egeides

Egeides

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Woooo.... TMA, I didn't said they weren't propaganda! What I said is that the word "propaganda" is used too automatically without demonstration and without even having a clear definition of "propaganda", which often seems to be used as "promotion of bad ideas" (which I think it's not).

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