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Not sure where to post this, I haven't been around in a long time. My wife and I are moving to Bangladesh in July and we're getting rid of all our stuff. This means I'm selling off my copy of Dune: Chronicles of the Imperium RPG by Last Unicorn games. I though some of you here might appreciate a heads-up on this since these are so rare (only 3000 made total as far as I know). I've placed it up for auction on eBay, I'm really sad to see it go, but can't store it or take it (we already have far too much stuff). :- It's in great condition, check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8822543767&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT Thanks, and sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum.

Scroll down on this page until you see "Japanese Covers": http://www.arrakis.co.uk/books.html I wish I knew where to get these, myself. I love Japanese stuff. Kancho! - David

It's because they all had the hots for CHA!ni. ;D

I don't know, it'll take a few weeks to arrive. 8)

Just picked up Dune: Chronicles of the Imperium off of eBay. :O My wallet feels considerably lighter now. ::)

That might just be possible. ;) But hang on, I think I've just come upon a copy of the book for a VERY cheap price, from a book store that doesn't know what it's got...I'll keep you all updated. ;D

I've been trying to get a hold of a copy of Last Unicorn Game's Dune RPG that they released at GenCon in 2000. Unfortunately, everyone who's selling them online is asking a LOT of money for them, money I can't spend right now. Wizards of the Coast bought Last Unicorn with the intention of converting the Dune game to the d20 system, but never released it (in fact, they shut it down). A couple of years ago I had a petition to save it, but nothing came of that. What I'm wondering now is if anyone here has a copy of the game that he could transform into PDF. We could use it as a basis for our own conversion to the d20 system, and based on that, put out adventures/accessories that expanded that universe. What do you think? - David (Who wants the PDF even if the idea isn't good)

Ok, I get it now. And of course I know BC dates increase the further back in time you go, I just didn't know BG dates did the same. - David

5000 BC would then be the currect BG date minus 7000, which means 14000 BG - 7000 = 7000 BG. Still don't see where you get those other dates... - David

Vanguard, 20000BG? How do you figure that? - David

Vanguard3000, you're right, it does say Yueh's house, but it is NOT capitalized. - David

Hey guys, if the emperor wanted to get rid of Leto so bad, why does Irulan say he was extremely angry when he heard of Leto's death, and that he esteemed him? Weird... ???

Feyd, Dune is the third planet, and Mars is the fourth...unless something cataclismic happened to Venus, Earth, or Mercury (which is possible, but unlikely), this would sort of shoot down your idea... In fact, it would be more probable that Dune itself is Earth, but I doubt that too. ::)

Nema, ok I'll buy the threat scenario, but if the Atreides still governed Caladan, why is it listed as Count Fenring's fief in the book? Very weird... ???

From the Terminology of the Imperium: Uhh...why then are there Harmonthep lions in the prequels, if this "satellite" is nonexistent??? Can anyone explain?

From the Terminology of the Imperium at the back of Dune. So wait a sec...when was this War of Assassins? Is this the conflict described in House Harkonnen? If so, then why isn't it made clearer that House Atreides and Ginaz were allies before? And wouldn't the be allied EVEN MORE later on, since Dunca helps to save the day? Or is this something earlier? Can't be, because then they would be allies of Paulus or someone else, and not of Leto, as quoted above. UNLESS, this war occured in the 15 years between the end of House Corrino and the beginning of Dune. Thoughts? Ideas?

I have several theories and have heard a few others, but I have not yet read a clear explanation of why the Atreides were sent to Arrakis, that is, under what justification. What did the Emperor hope to accomplish by sending them there? Why did they have to give up Caladan, if the Harkonnens could rule there and still keep Geidi Prime? I'd love to hear what y'all know/think. ???

Mahdi, remember that Paul's "godlike" abilities were pretty much shut down for everything that was happening in that place. It was a nexus with so many decisions and alternatives that he couldn't predict what would happen. So that wouldn't really give him an advantage over Feyd in the fight. ;)

Yeah, I was suprised when they SUED it too. ;D

Never heard of that, it's not in the Terminology of the Imperium. ::)

Mordecai, read Appendix I to Dune, where Herbert describes the ecology of Arrakis. It answers all those questions. Also, ExAtreides as for the Asteroid Theory, check this out, in Dune [page 73 of my PDF, too lazy to look it up in the book right now]: [bold emphasis mine]

Well, I know Bi-la Kaifa should be said: "Bee lah kah-ee-fah" But that's just my other memory bringing up those Arabic ancestors again... ;)

I'd like to point out that with every insemination there are millions of the little guys headed towards the egg. A Bene Gesserit is fully aware of every element in her body down to the molecular level, and can control it. It would be a simple thing to allow only a sperm with an XY configuration to penetrate the egg. ;D

Ka-na-da? ;D

Just finished reading Appendix II to Dune: "The Religion of Dune", and found some things that are relevant to this discussion. Now, keep in mind that I'm a philosophy major and a religious person myself, so I may be going too in-depth in some of my observations, but bear with me and you might grab a mite or two to chew on. From that paragraph, we can deduce that Herbert crafted these future religions by mixing Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and a few other present-day religions. A few of these "mixes" can already be seen, such as the watered-down versions of Christianity, infused with New Age principles (which are in essence plucked from Eastern Religions and cut off from their roots), which anyone can see on TBN. Or the Buddhist/Islamic crossovers apparent mainly on the countries of South Asia, where the two religions have come together into a melting pot. There are also blends of Judaism and Christianity, although these are much more subtle because Christianity is an outgrowth of Judaism, in terms, and it's hard to pinpoint exactly what is what in the mix (although a serious Christian or Jew will be able to spot them right away). I find it interesting that Frank thought about this. I don't believe the original passage in Genesis needs reinterpretation. After all, it is dealing with Creation and God's instructions to man. It seems to me that its implications are clear enough, as man grows to the point where he can expand his occupation into outer space. Just as we don't need specific commands by God to build computers, perform scientific experiments, earn money, and do other things which are part of our lives, the same applies to the natural expansion of civilization. It needs no justification. I wonder what Herbert was thinking about when he wrote this, guess I'll never know. Heh, when I read this I thought of the World Council of Churches...they have been trying to do precisely this for a while. I don't think they were around when Frank was writing the book, but it sure is interesting that he thought of it a long time ago. The thing is, the things most religions have in common is not "Thou shalt not disfigure the soul.", as the C.E.T. thought, but "There is absolute truth, and we have found it." This core principle goes against the very heart of any effort to combine religions. In fact, I would dare to say that at the point one attempts to combine religions, one loses the very essence of religious belief, and is left with nothing but meaningless words and shallow ideas. And this is precisely what happened with the Orange Catholic Bible: Interestingly enough, Herbert seemed to understand this as well. He portrays the Fremen religion as being constructed from elements of other religions, but the Fremen firmly believed they had the truth, and that others did not. And thus, the true core of any religious system moved forward: True religion cannot promise anything if it does not claim a hold on truth. It cannot promise peace, self-improvement, eternal life, or anything else if it does not place itself as the revelation. And that's why any effort that approximates the Orange Catholic Bible (such as the WCC) will ultimately fail, because in removing each religion's claim to revelation, it removes its very foundation. As I said before, good topic! 8)