Traffic Is Four Times as Lethal as War

Gobalopper · May 14, 2003

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030514/od_nm/injuries_dc

815,000 for suicide, wow didn't realize it was so high. 1/10 of deaths come from injuries.

Navaros · May 15, 2003

does the traffic stat account for all the cumulative damage that carbon monoxide and all the other toxic fumes that we are forced to breathe in, has on the human body which oftentimes shortens lifespans and/or directly causes death?

if not, you can probably bump up that stat to traffic is 10x more lethal than war, if not higher

Acriku · May 15, 2003

Which wars are they counting? Obviously not the Civil War in America, or the World Wars...

DukeLeto · May 15, 2003

I'll say; WW2 alone is many, many times that figure (310,000).

Acriku · May 15, 2003

The Civil War alone is twice that figure...This doesn't make much sense.

Gobalopper · May 15, 2003

I assume it means per year, most likely based on 2002 or so.

Anathema · May 15, 2003

And men were also three times as likely to be murdered.

Not very comforting...

nampigai · May 15, 2003

I brake for nobody....not that the Skoda would cause much injury anywho... but still it's the thought that counts.

To get a little bit on topic, I can understand why so many people dies in traffic, some people drives like idiots. The worst thing is old people, people that just got their drivers license and females (sorry). I'm generalising to make a point. Many girls drives so "safely" that they become a hassard for others.

this is all offcourse from my point of view others may have a different....but they are wrong.

Hawat · May 15, 2003

This statistic isn't that surprising. The majority of the world's population are "encountering" traffic daily, while wars aren't imperative to the daily agenda.

nemafakei · May 15, 2003

"I'll say; WW2 alone is many, many times that figure (310,000)."

Spread over 5 years, however.

Besides, it's still a huge concern that traffic is so dangerous, especially given the percentage of the world's population that have access to cars in the first place.

Acriku · May 15, 2003

Spread over 5 years still puts more than a few million into the statistic, which is higher than the 310,000 figure.

Edric O · May 15, 2003

I wonder how many times more lethal is traffic over terrorism...

Is it just me or would it be a FAR better use of resources if Bush declared a "war on traffic"?

SurlyPIG · May 16, 2003

Given that, would it not be a better use of your efforts to protest the fundamentally evil traffic instead of clashing against capitalism?

nemafakei · May 16, 2003

About as many die from war in a year as die in a day due to their water supply. That might be why.

SurlyPIG · May 16, 2003

Then protest 'evil bad water supply' instead. :) Better yet, why not try and SOLVE the problem instead of wagging pointed fingers all about?

Navaros · May 16, 2003

Is it just me or would it be a FAR better use of resources if Bush declared a "war on traffic"?

yes, that would be the BEST possible use of resources! if he did that, we'd start to see humans living upwards of 150 years thanks to not being forced to breath in poisonous, toxic fumes constantly, which are caused by traffic.

unfortunately, Bush is a slave to the Big Oil Companies. heck, he even carried out an Illegal War on an innocent country for them! so we are not going to see him place a war on traffic. he loves traffic.

SurlyPIG · May 16, 2003

^You can fight idiocy but you can't win^

Your claims aren't even ballpark navaros. Vehicle air pollution does NOT decrease the human lifespan by 1/2.

Navaros · May 16, 2003

hmm... tell me ACE, how long do you think you'd live if you locked yourself in your garage and started a car engine?

oh btw *Do NOT TRY IT*!!!!!!! because you'd be dead in a very short amount of time

you're telling me that all the fumes that get breathed into your lungs over your life time by *HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS* of cars in traffic don't drastically decrease your life span when just *ONE* of such cars will kill you in a matter of minutes; hours at most? that's doesn't sound very reasonable to me. my statement is far more reasonable.

DukeLeto · May 16, 2003

^You can fight idiocy but you can't win^
Your claims aren't even ballpark navaros. Vehicle air pollution does NOT decrease the human lifespan by 1/2.

You call him an idiot, yet you deny that air pollution significantly decreases human lifespan? What do they feed you in Canada? ???

Acriku · May 17, 2003

It depends on the city, really. Certain cities have certain smog levels, and carbon monoxide levels. But I thought this topic was about traffic, not polution?

SurlyPIG · May 17, 2003

hmm... tell me ACE, how long do you think you'd live if you locked yourself in your garage and started a car engine?

The car would run out of gas well before I suffered any kind of harm. Unless the engine was poorly maintained and was springing carbon mono I would be absolutely fine.

you're telling me that all the fumes that get breathed into your lungs over your life time by *HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS* of cars in traffic don't drastically decrease your life span when just *ONE* of such cars will kill you in a matter of minutes; hours at most? that's doesn't sound very reasonable to me. my statement is far more reasonable.

Minutes? *laughs* If that were true, everyone in L.A. would be long dead! Unless you have a respiritory ailment, automobile smog in most cities won't even effect you. I didn't say it wouldn't, but it sure doesn't cut your life in half! Quantified with the ocurrecne of respiratory illnesses, a few weeks at most.

Edric O · May 17, 2003

This reminds me of a pic I saw once that said "Smoking is healthy! Lung cancer is just liberal propaganda!". At the time I thought no one could take something like that seriously. But now I'm starting to wonder...

nemafakei · May 18, 2003

"Lung cancer is just liberal propaganda!"

Hahahah!

Someone really doesn't know the meaning of the word liberal...

I don't think that the 50% life reduction is accurate to any reasonable degree. However, studies here have shown that traffic does ail children significantly.

Anathema · May 18, 2003

If car smoke isn't harmful, why don't they put the exhaust pipes on the inside of the car instead of gassing people on the sidewalk with it?

nemafakei · May 18, 2003

I'd been thinking about that too, but I don't think manufacturers would sell such cars, or they would try to make it illegal through thr judiciary if such a law was passed by an executive.

Sign In

Traffic Is Four Times as Lethal as War

Recommended Posts

Gobalopper

Navaros

Acriku

DukeLeto

Acriku

Gobalopper

Anathema

nampigai

Hawat

nemafakei

Acriku

Edric O

SurlyPIG

nemafakei

SurlyPIG

Navaros

SurlyPIG

Navaros

DukeLeto

Acriku

SurlyPIG

Edric O

nemafakei

Anathema

nemafakei

Join the conversation

Activity

Important Information