Guest LtTitan Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Does anyone have or know where I can get something on the Fremen Language? I have always been fascinated with the Fremen. I have also liked the language they speak, but only know a word or two, such as 'bila kaifa' and 'ya hya chouhada.' So I am asking if anyone knows the Fremen language or can give me something that I can learn the Fremen language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 The Fremen language is pretty much the same as Arabic, from what we see in the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Atreides Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 With some hebrew touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Ya, a lot from their words are taken from Arabic, like fedaykins (their are similar to fedayind word), jihad, mahdi and few other. Becouse Herbert took their culture from arabic culture, he gave them similar language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Fremen language is based on some nomad dialect of arabic. If you want their font, download attachment. It's like arab, so write from right.[attachment archived by Gobalopper] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 If you want ot understand it you should beable to find some kind of dictionary somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 a dictionary won't be enough to learn arabic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 You could do some translations though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 yeah but you do need some kind of cd if you want to learn to talk. you also need to learn the alphabet, and translate the dune words written in latin to arabic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad dib Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 In the back of the first dune book there are translations of the fremen language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 No, it's just description of some terms used in Dune (there are also words of galach language, planet names, sci-fi tools etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 You'd be surprised how far you can get with a dictionary... certainly if you have a grounding in languages, more so if those languages are similar to the one in which you're interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 but it takes time to learn new alphabets. it certainly took me time to learn the cyrillic alphabet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Cyrillic is easy, but arabic alphabet is based on syllabes, so it's some kind of other coffee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 yeah cyrillic is easy...now. It was difficult to learn because many letters looked so much like latin. Phonecian was easy though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Just you need to be careful with soft and hard signs, jeri and double-letters (ia, ie, iu, io, sch). How looks phoenician alphabet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidu Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 Well, it's older than the greek alphabet, so it must be simpler.Emperor, can you show us a sample? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 sure thing guys. it just so happens that I have a picture of the phoenician alphabet, there are several versions I have seen. but the differense are only a few letters. I'll post the easy one[attachment archived by Gobalopper] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidu Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Cool, I know only the greek alphabet, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 That makes some sense. wau becomes digamma in greek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 you can see the resembing between it and greek yes. Our alphabet is based upon this alphabet. But they did not have any vowels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Most mediterranean nations didn't use vowels. That was why i.e. jewish Jhwh (He, who is - name of God) was misspelled in medieval times as Jehova, altough everyone knows they read it as Jahve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 and the phonecian word meaning wall, Gdr is pronounced Gedaar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidu Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Is there a site about phoenician writing and language? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 u might try phoenicia.orgdon't remember the site I found that other picture on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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