Creation by God / Big Bang Theory

[sneezer3]

Are you refering to the big dragon things mentioned in the bible?

What "big dragon things"?

They are in there if you look. like in job 38(or 36 i don't know which Kent Hovine explans it.

[Acriku]

Or you can quote it from the bible like you always have done before? :)

[Nyarlathotep]

Thanks for replying sneezer3. As far as the proof goes, I'm not going to order it. If anyone else has some proof, I'd gladly read it.

Dinosaurs is just one question I have, There are many more I could ask here.

[sneezer3]

Or you can quote it from the bible like you always have done before? :)

Like i said, i don't have much time on, and am not sure the exact passege. but he explans it.

Otherwise i would ;D

[Acriku]

Well since I would not waste my money on that, or time, could somebody who knows just what the heck Sneezer is talking about quote it from the bible? Thanks.

[sneezer3]

Thanks for replying sneezer3. As far as the proof goes, I'm not going to order it. If anyone else has some proof, I'd gladly read it.

Dinosaurs is just one question I have, There are many more I could ask here.

You can ask away over IM if you'd like. :) or here would do fine. i'd reply in the morning.

I'l see if i can find it online for you. :)

[Scrinlord]

I will go try to find it, I know what he is talking about(I think) It is called the Leviathan(sp) And I think it is mentioned in Revelations, but I am not sure exactly where

[Acriku]

I just remembered, wouldn't a human writing about "dinosaurs" in the bible mean he saw one, because frankly they didn't know anything about fossils, and probably has no complete ones? And wouldn't that be contradicting extremely, and perhaps laughable, to paleontological finds?

[Inoculator9]

Maybe he saw an apparition of the devil. I mean we hear about many legged and headed goats, why not "thunder lizards", lol.

[sneezer3]

I just remembered, wouldn't a human writing about "dinosaurs" in the bible mean he saw one, because frankly they didn't know anything about fossils, and probably has no complete ones? And wouldn't that be contradicting extremely, and perhaps laughable, to paleontological finds?

No the Bible was inspired by God. therefore what they though is irrelvent to God's word. :) and yes. i have seen him in person even!(i'm not jokeing he signed my Bible) he has fossils and commenly debates Evolution.

Ok. cya tommrow. then all respond to above posts ::) and the below posts. :O Hmm. looks like there isn't a smiley for that ;D Your eyes pop out when you try! :)

[Scrinlord]

I am still looking for it, but most people I know use the leviathan as a referance to dragons, not dinosaurs.

[Acriku]

So god has given these men knowledge of dinosaurs? Then again that's assuming the "Leviathan" isn't some k-dragon or another rather lizardly beast that somebody was scared of and decided to write it in the bible.

[sneezer3]

I am still looking for it, but most people I know use the leviathan as a referance to dragons, not dinosaurs.

I think it was on one of three pages on a search of google for "Christan Video" :-[

[Inoculator9]

A dragon would be more likely. The word dinosaur was coined relatively recently, it means "thunder lizrds" I think. But it would probably refer to dragon.

[Scrinlord]

ok, here is some stuff about a "dragon"

THE LEVIATHAN REPORT AS FOUND IN JOB 41:

1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?

2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?

3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?

4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?

5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?

6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?

7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?

8 Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.

9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?

10 None [is so] fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?

11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.

12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.

13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?

14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.

15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.

16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.

17 They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.

18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.

19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.

20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.

21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.

22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.

23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.

24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.

25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.

26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.

27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.

28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.

29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.

31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.

32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.

33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.

34 He beholds all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

I am still looking for the referance that I am thinking of, I dont remember where it is.

[Inoculator9]

Well the scales part would prove it's a dragon. Few dinosaurs had actual scales.

[Acriku]

I don't see how this "leviathan" proves that the bible mentioned dinosaurs? It could just be a big lizard.

[Inoculator9]

I wonder what the reptile population was like during that period...

[Scrinlord]

that would have to be one damn big lizard.....

[Acriku]

People can imagine can they not? I just recently saw the Attack of the 50-foot Woman :D

[Scrinlord]

did SHE have scales?

[Acriku]

I think you missed my point... I meant that people have wild imaginations. Or if you want to take my examples seriously, try Godzilla. ;)

[Scrinlord]

no, I got your point, I was just being a smart ass

[Acriku]

Ah when the " ::)" finally does have a use! :D

[Scrinlord]

lol, yups!