Gobalopper Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 But if I knew it was God, really knew it was him ie I wasn't insane, and he gave me a good reason which I am sure he would if I wasn't insane then yes I probably would. Now would God ever make me do that? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 well he didn't give you a good reason. i think that was part of the initial question. God only told you to kill your mother, nothing about why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 But remember this is hypothetical Gob. And does God give you a good reason to not break his commandments? Not including hell, because if you break God's command to kill somebody it's bye-bye for you as well. And yet you follow his word because you truly believe he said that, just as you "hypothetically" believe he is commanding you to kill someone. Would he make you do it? I wouldn't think so, but this is hypothetical :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 If he didn't give me a good reason and it goes against what is written then no I wouldn't do it because I knew it wasn't God telling me this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 C'mon Gob, this was suppose to be hypothetical, as I quoted in the first post If God told me to kill somebody, would I do it?Now, this question requires a few disclaimers. First, no copping out and claiming that the God you believe in would never ask such a thing of you - this is hypothetical. Second, the person to be killed does, in fact, want to live: s/he did not request this, this is not euthanasia; nor does s/he deserve it for crimes committed. This is cold-blooded murder, with no mitigating circumstances or hidden aspects that will make it all right in the end.So, would you do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 well then what if it was someone/thing claiming to be God and told you to kill your mother and gave you a good reason, if a false one. You wouldn't know. so then you'd kill your own mother for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 I believe I answered that."If he didn't give me a good reason and it goes against what is written then no I wouldn't do it because I knew it wasn't God telling me this."If you are going to use those statements as the basis for the question the answer is no. It goes against my beliefs to just kill someone for no reason and because of that I wouldn't do it because I know if it truly was God asking he would have a reason more then just "cold-blooded murder". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 remember that before any sane person would obey this command, God would have emprically made himself known in objective, physical reality- we are NOT talking about some voice in one's head, or an emotional "burning in the bosom" we are talking about me and my buddy talking, then God appearing and my buddy screaming "WHAT? OOOOOO LOOOK.....MY LORD, MY GOD!" as he bows to the ground shaking in his boots and crapping his pants while I am on my face repenting of all my sins in abject fear.This is what we are talking about Acriku. Not some little voice in my head. lolAnd yes, I would obey his commands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 Thank you empr for answering the question, and everybody else! :) Tomorrow I'll probably post the reason for this thread, and then we can discuss that after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 lol, Acriku is going to try and spring a trap.wont happen, though.just keep in mind that I answered "yes" after God had made himself objectively known in time and space, hence putting an end to the question "Does God Exist?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 I don't know why you are so paranoid as to think I would spring a trap on you at 11:23am...I've said too much. *runs away* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 LMAO. i'm gonna start cracking up if this turns into being some kind of joke. and after everyone was taking it so seriously. that'll be hiliarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 then why wait until tomorrow for the purpose of the thread? I usually will state the reasons for my threads as soon as i post them. i dont lead people down mysterious roads. just tell us why you posted this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 acriku, you have sunk to a new low. good grief.I would do as God said to me if I knew it was truly God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 Because I want other people who cannot reply at this time to be able to post before I do. The more the better, so we can all learn together. But any data is welcome, no yes maybe whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 lol, ok. lets learn together. sounds great!uhh...what are we learning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 duh, the meaning of life.lol, seriously, it'd be funny as hell if i'm right somehow. however, if i am right, it's b/c i'm psychotic...or is it psychic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 lol. i cant wait to see what we are learningplease, dont make me wait any longer ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 I could say there is a species of crocodile (or is it alligator? probably crocodile) that gallops, by putting hind legs forward and front legs back and away he goes. We'd be learning something together now wouldn't we? ;) I'm not saying no one will now about what I am getting towards, but I am willing to bet not a lot do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 what kind of crocodile is that, btw?and what does that have to do with God asking us to kill someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 i think he's teaching you something. you said something about learning so he learned you something. lol. err. i think anyway.EDIT - maybe i shouldn't think anymore...it endangers myself and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 Is it a freshwater crocodile :) http://www.schoolworld.asn.au/species/fwcroc.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 The fresh water crocodile eats crusteaceans , insects, spiders and fish. It will also take frogs, lizards, goannas, snakes, birds, rats and bats. how can a crocodile eat a bat? a bird i can understand but a bat? don't they usually stay in trees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 and what is the relevance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 I meant that anything I say would be us learning together. Whether it be a theory, law, fact, etc, that some may know about, or not :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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