DjCiD Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 oh ok... did they delibertly not inform the Drs. becasue they were afriad of ppl finding out or did they not know either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Eeeeh they found out anyway, so what's the point in that? They probably didn't inform them because the communication was so crappy or because they were to stupid to think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 at least they found out... so what exactly does 'brief cardial disturbance' mean... stopping the heart brief or stroke brief? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 They talked about "a brief heart attack". I dunno if that guy even knew what he was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 wow... would the heart attack stop on its on or did the Doctors have to help a lot of ppl get the heatrs started again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Caid, I understand your point but at the same time the Russian officials options for handling the sitution were sort of terrorist themselves. The Russian officials said they could 1.) use the *nerve gas (knowing it would not only kill the terrorist but the civilians) or 2.) use explosives to destroy the building. Maybe it's just me but where is the official in this sitution that thinks outside of the box. If this is the way Russia is going to fight terrorist then the civilians had better learn how to protect themselves.*even if they used the nerve gas how could they not let the doctors prepare so they could treat the civilians. The doctors should had been able to treat the 117 civilians taken hostage by the 50 terrorists. That is just disregard for your civilian population. Rumors, only rumors. Don't say you had not that idea too. But not the heart to realise it. Only failure was in medical support. There were not enough antidotes, but if there was a mistake, it'll be investigated by police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 I think that Russia should stay. It is their territory, and what if all people wanted to be independennt. then we would have several million nations. no I think it is better to have few larger nations than many little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sadukar Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 thats right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Based on what facts can you say that was only a rumor Caid. There is more in Chechnya than just terrorist fighting Russian government the story is much, much more complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Of course they don't face something like Hamas or Fatah, but link between terrorists and Chechen rebels is sure. For example one of their former commanders, Chattab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 No, I am speaking of the history of Chechnya and the Russian Empire. Knowing the history of Chechnya makes understanding better. You are correct in what you say by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Jeez I'm sad to live in a country with such amateurs in high possitions. For those who doesn't know it the Chechnyan had a world congress in Copenhagen. We allowed this wich IMO is perfectly ok as we live in a democratic country. However the Danish police recieved a request from Russia via Interpol to arrest 78 chechnyan "rebels" if they were seen. The Danish Police recieved this msg Sunday at 17.20 with the Subject: URGENT! but they only took action monday at aprx 12.00. The Police arrested Akhmed Sakajev who is now hold in Danish prison and may be send to Russia if the proofs against him holds water.The head of the Danish Police made an excuse claiming that Akhmed Sakajev had traveled around in Europe without being arrested and that was the reason he didn't take imidiate action on the mail.Through all this our foreign minstre wasn't informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 dunno if this has been said before, but Russia has been fighting them since the 1600's!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sadukar Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Jeez I'm sad to live in a country with such amateurs in high possitions. For those who doesn't know it the Chechnyan had a world congress in Copenhagen. We allowed this wich IMO is perfectly ok as we live in a democratic country. However the Danish police recieved a request from Russia via Interpol to arrest 78 chechnyan "rebels" if they were seen. The Danish Police recieved this msg Sunday at 17.20 with the Subject: URGENT! but they only took action monday at aprx 12.00. The Police arrested Akhmed Sakajev who is now hold in Danish prison and may be send to Russia if the proofs against him holds water.The head of the Danish Police made an excuse claiming that Akhmed Sakajev had traveled around in Europe without being arrested and that was the reason he didn't take imidiate action on the mail.Through all this our foreign minstre wasn't informed.you know what, me too, I mean, how can the danish police vait a weekend before doing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Maybe they were eating pastry?A whole weekend!!!Were they letting them escape on purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 I really don't know but if I had the final word there would role some heads that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 future Danish PM in the making?If a country like russia tells you what to do you shouldn't hesitate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 no that's not the issue, Russia told us not to let the Chechnyan have their world congress but we let them, that's IMO perfectly fair as long as no "terrorist" are among them, we live in a free country. The problem is that the police hesitated with the arresting. wether we should let Russia have Sakajev or not that depends on their evidence against him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 Great celebration over shining military succes? Two unarmed helicopters and one theatre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sadukar Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 you know what NaMpIgAi, I think we shoukd just hand himover to russia, then we are done whit the russia-denmark "crisis" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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