Aliens, angels?

[TMA_1]

I was looking through this book by an astro physicist who is also a devout christian. He is well respected and is a very popular professor. He states that out of many many cases of u.f.o. sightings can be explained as hoaxes and natural ocurrances or just mistakes as planes and whatnot. THere are though he says unmistakable signs of actual events that cant be explained.

He goes through how it is almost impossible for life to occure on a planet of another star. And if true and he takes devils advocate that it breaks the bounds of physics to travel from one star to another. He has all the mathematics and physics in it and geesh a lot of i t was over my head.lol but he explained it laymens terms. He then pointed out that this 1 percent of u.f.o. sightings that cant be explained also are impossible by physics. No marks of evidance that the ship was there but only traces of extremely odd counts of radiation and wear around the area and how sometimes nothing is there at all. But was witnessed by many people. crashes, sightings by air. Many things like that. He gives the idea that it may be fallen angels/deamons that do this. He explains that almost every case of sightings

is followed by occultic practices by people who saw the incidances. That when this stuff is stopped that all the sightings and abductions go away. he brings up good evidanec for it. I just fuond it interesting. what do you guys think?

[Anathema]

Aliens exist

The airforce is a hoax

[Inoculator9]

Aliens do exist. There is proof all over the planet. Although that does sound interesting and I would like to know what the book is called.

[Anathema]

Since traveling at light speed or higher is physicly impossible, it would take thousends of years before aliens would reach us. Why bother? I believe aliens exist, somewhere, but I don't believe anybody has ever seen one or even will.

[Marcel71]

Since traveling at light speed or higher is physicly impossible, it would take thousends of years before aliens would reach us. Why bother? I believe aliens exist, somewhere, but I don't believe anybody has ever seen one or even will.

Worm holes?? Faster then light

[Anathema]

Naaah....to hot in wormholes. And they've not been proven to exist.

[Edric O]

There is a good chance that aliens exist - but we can be 100% sure that none of them have ever visited Earth in the past few thousand years.

As for there being a connection with fallen angels... maybe. I don't know. By why would they bother?

[Inoculator9]

What if we don't know the extent of physics? Or idea of physics is constantly changing. Perhaps some aliens have a better understanding of physics and travel like they do in Dune. The fastest way from one point ot another is not straight, you bend space so that the two points merge, and the point of departure retracts back to it's original position.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

Maybe for us, it looks impossible, but for other alien races out there. Space travel is like sailing the sea.

If we compared our technology and genetic substance with aliens, I would say we are inferior to them.

Maybe not to all races.

Worm holes would rip you apart, the gravity there is so great, it sucks up light and causes a Nasuae effect in the hole.

So it literally breaks everything to pieces.

[Inoculator9]

Not necessarily, wormholes might have different characteristics then we believe. Black Holes pull you apart because the gravity well doesnt just pull you through, the "walls" of the hole pull you towards them and your ripped apart. I believe that a wormholes gravity well is more like a string pulling you through a hole, the gravity pulls you through it and the momentum pops you out the other side. A black hole is a swirling mass of unescapable blackness, we have very little knowledge of wormhole's appearances.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

We will see, if we develop advanced space technology.

Right now, the Black hole construction is based on theory's right now. :O

[Inoculator9]

I'm sure we'll travel through space soon enough but for now we can really only speculate.

[TMA_1]

I know edric. It seemed like a weird connection from me too.I thought abo ut it though with the help of god. I realized that it is a perfect thing to do. Angels in the past showed themselves in "primitive" ways. As spirits or gods. Now they are advancing with the times. Showing themselves as the Gods of this age. Like technologically advanecd alieans. They do it to keep the peoples minds of god and on their own beliefs. just an opinon.

[Inoculator9]

That's an interesting idea, and what was the book called?

[TMA_1]

No, it is physically impossible for us to travel in other dimensions. We would cease to exist. I studied that. If we put ourselves in a different dimension, we would not be compatable. Now warping timespace seems like a good idea but I think it is impossible to create a technology that powerful. They would have to be not of the same carbon stuff we are. Maybe energy could. Immortality. Thats what angels are. perfect match.

[Inoculator9]

What is the book called???

[Sardauker-Kirov]

Yeah, what's the book called?

The almighty theory's of scientists. ::)

[Acriku]

His devout beliefs distort his reasoning. Fallen angels, hmm sure why not. I mean, if Jesus once walked the earth, why not fallen angels flying through the sky? ...

I for one would advise more study into this matter as to his mathematics, to validate them since he believes they prove it is impossible for aliens on other plants of another star. We live by our physics because we live in our physics. But what if we were to live outside our physics? The physics change on different gravities, light patterns, and we haven't even found all the chemicals on our earth - think of how many weird chemicals are out there, defying our physics every second.

[TMA_1]

Its called Lights In The Sky & Little Green Men by Hugh Ross. its a cool book.

Why not acriku? in our bible it says that angels had their own culture. They were actual sentient beings. They could have had millions of years of history. They ARE aliens in a sense. But they are called "beings", "Seraphim", "Shinging ones", "Charubim" or "Angels" which means messanger. Or Demons which means destorters. They are just fallen angels. why couldn t they have technology?

Also it would b e so rare that other beings exist. if t hey did how would they be able to build on that technology? Too many people think that space is so h uge that life must exist out there. Evolution is so rare though. I mean so rare. Even if life did start it still has to evolve into thinking races. This needs the right random mutations. The animals would have to survive through everything on a planet they live in. Its just almost impossible in evolutionary terms.

P.S. Your a dork acriku.lol of course go is better. :)

[Sardauker-Kirov]

We humans aren't the only ones who were lucky to be evolved into a intelligent race.

There are aliens out there, that surpasses our simple minds.

Heck, maybe there is a race that doesn't need technology to do space travel or fighting, something like the saiyans or some other species.

Humans depends on technology, we can't live without it.

It's just like snagging the stinger from a bee.

[Acriku]

I don't understand why people are convinced that there are smarter aliens, why can't they be organisms that are dumb as hell that are able to live in vacuums and have evolved to the point of interstellar travel? Ah whatever.

[Inoculator9]

Yep, Anything that didn't evolve on Earth is alien to us. Whether it's a single-cell organism, or invaders.

[Caid Ivik]

Of course angels are aliens. But "aliens" sounds like "invaders", so better would be "extraterrestrials". Even God is. But it's hard to say it, because he lives over this universe. Angels are his minions for contact with Earth.

Also there is one alternative solution:

http://home.rochester.rr.com/bshelton/eva/angels.html

[Acriku]

Minions for contact with Earth? What's the use if you are a huge omnipotent omniscient God?

[Sardauker-Kirov]

God doesn't have a true form, so maybe he has send out Angels to be his so called "appearance? "