Any way to remove the leech effect from Harkonnen/Ordos units?

[Devastator_Mech]

But ordos and hark's way will damage the unit, but for atreidies, they'll increase it instead.

Then Atreidies have an advantage!! NOT FAIR!!

[Desert_Eagle25]

I know, but they also suck at rushing ;)

[Edric O]

And for the Ordos, the health goes back up again on its own, so a little damage from a chem is quickly auto-repaired ;)

[Desert_Eagle25]

Lso the hark tanks are barel effected, since they never lose speed etc.

[Devastator_Mech]

Bullcrap, they lose speed dramatically straight after being hit.

[Desert_Eagle25]

I thought they they never lose speed, damage, and rate of fire. It says in the manual. ::)

[Devastator_Mech]

They'll never lose damage and ROF, but not speed for sure. They lose heaps of speed once get shot but will accelerate afterwards if not shot again.

[Desert_Eagle25]

oOoOoOoOoOo

ok then

[Edric O]

No they DON'T. Harkonnen units don't lose any speed (or RoF or anything else) after being hit. It says so in the Rules.txt

And the Rules don't lie.

[Devastator_Mech]

I only said they lose speed after being shot, and not anything else. But i guarantee you a hark assault will lose speed after being shot, virtually all units are the same. Its only about losing heaps or a little.

[Edric O]

No, they DO NOT lose speed. See the Rules.txt

In order for a unit to lose speed, it needs the following lines:

HitSlowDownAmount = x  // Percent (100 = complete stop)

HitSlowDownDuration = x // ticks

Where x is a positive number (in the first case, between 0 and 100). Harkonnen units don't have these lines, so the default value of 0 is used.

[Desert_Eagle25]

*checks my mod*

AHAH !!

u are right! *bows to edric_O* ::)

[Devastator_Mech]

No, they DO NOT lose speed. See the Rules.txt

In order for a unit to lose speed, it needs the following lines:

HitSlowDownAmount = x

[Desert_Eagle25]

hahaha

Whutever, the rules.ini never lies. It's practicly the entire backbone of the game, besides the grafix and all. The default is always zero or FALSE if it does not contain a certain line. And with the line not being there, the slow down is zero percent. Rules controls the whole game, and if it's zero, then it's zero, you can't say other. I've played this game longer then you Dev. I got it atleast a month before it was released, so dont tell me how qualified you are or whutever.

[Devastator_Mech]

I'm not saying it lies, but you sure you know how to read the rules.ini correctly?

[Desert_Eagle25]

yes actually, neext to the code is a description of whut that that line does....so "Turret=ORLaserBase what weapon the laser Tank has" would be a line from rules.txt

[Edric O]

Of course I can read the Rules.txt correctly. I'm a modder. :)

I used those lines a lot in KH. When I make new vehicles, I always give them a certain slowdown, depending of their House and their usefulness. For example, the Corrino Siege Tank only has a slowdown of 25%. So I know what I'm talking about.

Besides, it's also in the manual: The House advantage of House Harkonnen is that their units don't slow down when hit.

[Devastator_Mech]

Ok then, maybe i haven't used Harks long enough to find that point out.

[Seal89999]

Just blast the bastards off! or ofcourse you could use an engineer :D

[Timenn]

Thanks for bringing it ontopic again. ;)

Mostly I use the shoot-off. Unless there is an engineer nearby.

Unless with Atreides, then mostly the repair...

[shortbusme182]

Why the heck would you use assualt tanks anyway they suck?They have a mounted turret and slow rate of fire, i mena the sonic tank has a mounted turret but has a large rof. :P

[Devastator_Mech]

Yeah, and they cost almost twice as much too, and you'll need a much higher tech tree to build a sonic than assault.

[IxianMace]

I usually just shoot them off. However if I have engineers handy, I'll get them to take the leech larvae off the units. Just be careful you don't use Laser Tanks to shoot leech larvae off shielded units... ;D

[Devastator_Mech]

If you don't have a repair vehicle around, try use mongoose, it does the job nicely too.

[IxianMace]

Mongoose do lots of damage to vehicles with few hits. If the Mongoose did not get rid of the leech larvae after the first or second shot, it would probably be helping the larvae to kill the unit. I use Snipers and Infantry when I'm Atreides. They do relatively little damage, and can remove leech larvae without hurting the infected vehicle that much. Mongoose just do too much damage for their shots.