Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 All subhouses, Sardaukar,Ix,Tleilaxu,The Guild, and the Fremen againt Atreides, Harkonnen, and Ordos.Who would win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 The major houses.... Because even though the subhouses are powerful, they don't have the heavy firepower that major houses have, like mino's, assaults, deva's etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 if..to say..and couple of infils(Ix) and Fadayiks(Fremen) were to ware down the defences and then they managed a huge assault of Sards and Elite Sards combined with both type of Fremen infan with leeches and contaminators to ware down the enemy combined with a massive assault of infils as sweepers through the break in defences..do u think u could fend it off??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 The guild would simply stop the fight by refusing transport. End of story. No transport means no funds or resources, meaning continued fighting is almost imposssible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 the guild is a subhouse...just refuse to transport to the major houses...hehehehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 Yes, and the smugllers are a subhouse too, so you can't travel with them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 yeah..good point..also no reinforcements now for major houses...bigass blockade. stop resource mining too. also while all other subhouses fronting major attack at front of base, guild sneak in at back..base units too busy at the front to deal with the guild NIAB Tanks...muahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 And the Fremen control the sand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 Subhouses rule the universe if they ally together and work as a team. then they shall take over the major houses technology with spies!! muahaha...*cough* *cough* sorry...heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 hah... but corrino is emperor :-) he rulez all.... and he is ruler of sardaukar so the entire structure of arguments collapses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 corrino gets assassinated by one of the major houses....and all the subhouse fight the major houses to gain their pride back and discover the truth...muaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 So how exactly are the subhouses gonna make up for their complete lack of an air force?The Great Houses rule the skies.And since the battle is on Arrakis, the Guild blockade doesn't mean much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 true, the air is ruled by the great houses and buzzsaws/flamers will prove deadly vs. tleilaxu/sardaukar/fremen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 But they have a very short range. But other units can outrange all Subhouse units. But about the fight is on Arrakis, where do need to get their resources from then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 Houses must BE on Arrakis before they start fight. If Guild refuse them transport, they can even win without fight, just leave them on their planets. And important thing: Fremen have worms and can crush with worms attacking units. This is ya hya fedaykin then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 So how exactly are the subhouses gonna make up for their complete lack of an air force?The Great Houses rule the skies.And since the battle is on Arrakis, the Guild blockade doesn't mean much...what about the guild niap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpSard Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 I believe that this post assumes that the Guild is trying to test it's strength or some other such stuff when allied with other subhouses. If not, the smugglers aren't considered a subhouse by Emperor OR the Dune books. They're just there. They'll provide ANYONE with enough solaris, transport anywhere. As for the Emperor, he was already assasinated by that Lady Elara, consort, remember? But House Corrino is one of the great houses. Kinda intresting, Sardaukar vs. their master.As for the guild NIAP? Please, that thing is almost worthless. Sending in airdrones completely wipes them out. Those Tleilaxu Living Turrets could be a different story though...I say that it would most likely be a long, tough battle. It would also depend on whether or not the great houses allied with each other. If they did, the great houses would probably win. If not... Atreides would probably win, if they build proper anti-Guild defenses (check out emprworm's site, the slide show on that works) and deployed scouts in front of ramps, around spice fields, etc, etc. They would have to be using super defensive strategies to win. Slow advancing, setting up fortified areas on and around infantry rock in the sand, and multiple bases (if possible).Ordos probably wouldn't, even if they built great Guild defense, their sheilding is their doom against elite Sards. Leeches would get harvys, then Fremen Feds and Sards would annihilate any other units, and then would help the Guild to destroy defenses and the base.Harks could really go either way. I've played the least with them, so I'm not an authority, but they could win. Buzzsaws tearing up their fields, Inkys to kill many infantry, protected by buzzsaws and missile tanks. Flametanks and infantry would be useful there too, since the subs are mainly infantry based. Of course, scouts around ramps, spice fields, and any group of units.What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 The player would always win...Sub-House could win if player only, caus computer hasn't got strategy... Just "Smart" rushing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 24, 2002 Author Share Posted June 24, 2002 i'm not really generally talking game. in real life if Dune was real and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 In Dune, subhouses would win. Tleilax can provide all the soldiers they want and not be affected if the first wave all dies, just reclone them. And the guild can stop all transportation to Houses, leaving them divided and stranded, which is an extreme advantage - just kill them one by one. Fremen would rule Arrakis obviously, so whoever goes there is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 24, 2002 Author Share Posted June 24, 2002 oh, and also Tleilaxu clone all of the other houses forces for them..so no REAL loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Guild would be fight against Atreides, Harkonnen, Ordos but would be allied with Sardaukar and as far I know they do everything as Corrino say. And Corrino can put their hands on spice as well. No mention that they always want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 It is impossible to clone something without resources - so why do you say that the Tleilaxu lose nothing?And "they do everything as Corrino say" er... not really! Besides, the alliance of the subhouses is a given factor...As to an airforce, it is not a necessity - remember it is not airpower that can win on arrakis, it is desert power (which *can* include air power). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 27, 2002 Author Share Posted June 27, 2002 well not really nema. Tleilaxu uses the dead bodies of other and er-uses that flesh to make clones and gholas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Tleilaxu uses recources!And you forgot the Face Dancer (What exactly are that thing... never read dune1 just seen the movies and played the game, and im now reading about a face dancer and a navigator++ in the start of dune2(messiah or what its named)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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