Houses

[Anathema]

I also don't see how you could develop sophisticated knowledge about genetic manipulation without machines at all.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Scotland is Tleilax, Dolly

[Anathema]

Like a breeding shed ;D?

[Acriku]

Your never going to find a country doing that whole only biological and not machine method. And USA fits other houses more, so that's why I said Scotland.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

They started this...Scotland I mean. I wonder if they allow making humans clones in future.

[Alexander_Ordos]

It's hard to tell who'r ordos because nothing is written about them ( except my novel ) so I may only judge by their game character... And the winner is!:

Palestine+Israel+Japan...

Lithuania looks pretty much like Caladan - There'r seas an lakes and overgreen forests AND the most serious evidance is that in the middle ages, Lithuania was ruled by Dukes (Really no kings). There's Duke Mindaugas, Duke Gediminas, Duke Algirdas, Duke Vytautas... etc.. :D

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

I agree with this Israel. They are "money makers".

[Dunenewt]

Here is what FH said:

DUNE began with a concept whose mostly unfleshed images took shape across about six years of research and one and a half years of writing. The story was all in my head until it appeared on paper as I typed it out.

How did it evolve?

I conceived of a long novel, the whole trilogy as one book about the messianic convulsions that periodically overtake us. Demagogues, fanatics, con-game artists, the innocent and the not so innocent bystanders

[Dunenewt]

All of this encapsulates the stuff of high drama, of entertainment

[Dunenewt]

Enter the fugue. In music, the fugue is usually based on a single theme that is played many different ways. Sometimes there are free voices that do fanciful dances around the interplay. There can be secondary themes and contrasts in harmony, rhythm, and melody. From the moment when a single voice introduces the primary theme, however, the whole is woven into a single fabric.

What were my instruments in this ecological fugue? Images, conflicts, things that turn upon themselves and become something quite different, myth figures and strange creatures from the depths of our common heritage, products of our technological evolution, our human desires, and our human fears.

You can imagine my surprise to learn that John Schoenherr, one of the world's most foremost wildlife artists and illustrators, had been living in my head with the same images. People find it difficult to believe that John and I had no consultations prior to his painting of the DUNE illustrations, which follow this essay. I assure you that the paintings were a wonderful surprise to me.

The Sardaukar appear like the weathered stones of Dune. The Baron's paunch could absorb a world. The ornithopters are insects preying on the land. The sandworms are Earth shipworms grown monstrous. Stilgar glares out at us with the menace of a warlock.

What especially pleases me is to see the interwoven themes, the fuguelike relationships of images that exactly replay the way DUNE took shape.

As in an Escher lithograph, I involved myself with recurrent themes that turn into paradox. The central paradox concerns the human vision of time. What about Paul's gift of prescience, the Presbyterian fixation? For the Delphic Oracle to perform, it must tangle itself in a web of predestination. Yet predestination negates surprises and, in fact, sets up a mathematically enclosed universe whose limits are always inconsistent, always encountering the unprovable. It's like a koan, a Zen mind breaker. It's like the Cretan Epimenides saying, "All Cretans are liars."

Each limiting descriptive step you take drives your vision outward into a larger universe which is continued in still a larger universe ad infinitum, and in the smaller universes ad infinitum. No matter how finely you subdivide time and space, each tiny division contains infinity.

But this could imply that you can cut across linear time, open it like a ripe fruit, and see consequential connections. You could be prescient, predict accurately.

Predestination and paradox once more.

The flaw must lie in our methods of description, in languages, in social networks of meaning, in moral structures, and in philosophies and religions

[Dunenewt]

its quite long!

it makes references to OPEC (oil company) being the CHOAM and Ornithopters being insects.

[Bijaz]

Landsraad: United nations

House Corrino: America

House Harkonnen: Russia

Ix: Japan

House Atreides: Great Britain

Tleilaxu: Germany