air strikes rule against the ordos

[thomas]

get 4h. adp and stick them right outside you enemys base ....las tank,kobra,inf.veicle attacks get either destroyed or severly beaten down before they get to your base( and with the poor ai the enemy hardly sends aa partys after them[i have them in s. because of patch]) :) also it lets u focuse on your assault force rather than defence

=================================================================== gotta love the harks!

[peseverance]

a human would send some sort of AA force just to hunt these guys down as they move slowly and their Air to Ground guns aren't all that powerful

[bob_fox]

The problem is all the air units in this game are weak (very weak), but these ATP's are extremely good at stopping the enemy's long-range units from blowing up your base. He thinks his artillery is quite safe when suddenly out pops a ATP and starts popping 'em off, and quickly too :)!

[thomas]

and even if a aa team gos out it would have to be 15 aa troppers or 4 apcs to really hurt or destroy my adps :)]

[fedaykin_jatin]

adps r cool. when i use harko they r imo the best unit. they take out infantry easily, ga too. n the aircraft too.

so while they r vulnerable to lotsa aa troopers or orins. i think that they r very good for spicefield domination!! but if u got a large enough force of aa, those stuff drop like flies.

[nemafakei]

Atreides air drones are the beat anti-air defence; the HK loses out because of its ground attack capability. Plus, the drone can cover a pretty large area, because it is always moving.

[thomas]

drones cant attack ground units and adps are like mobile turrets ;D ;D :) ;)

[nemafakei]

Yes, but their damage is very poor. You're better off with ground units to attack the enemy, and Air drones to swat passind enemy aircraft. Plus, ADPs are a pain if you have an orni/gunship/airlift fleet being built, and you lose the ADPs you rely on for your defence. Air Drones are build quicker, and no-one should be lacking in straight ground defence anyway.

[subarupunk]

hopefully, you have ground units on defense.

if you don't then you should expect a runover any time now.

[areyouforit]

with ornithopters you can get ordos players good, cause if you have a big fleet of ornithopters you can retreat if they throw missles (the missles are slow) and come back a second later. though it requires a little babysitting its still a good option cause when you have 15 ornis 7 or 8 of them attack first (while the others are on top of the building or enemy)

and then after they are done with their ammo the other 7 or 8 start attacking. its a good way to destroy ordos players, or should i say crush the enemy.

[nemafakei]

This depends greatly on whether the Ordos player has the Sardaukar as allies, and how much attention (s)he is paying to the airforce you have.

[subarupunk]

he also must not have AA troopers or missile tanks.

[nemafakei]

Ordos players probably wont' have missile tanks (unless with the Ix, then wes, but projections). APCs yes, thet have AA capability - but the value for money is not good just for that purpose.

[subarupunk]

indeed.

[ThopterFanatic]

I was playin against both ordos and harko, and airstrike work on both of them, although you need more for hark. But, a squandron of about 20 thopters can get any job done.  

[nemafakei]

On the AI, certainly. On a human, that cannot be predicted.

[ThopterFanatic]

20 thopters will take down any building, and if you blow up the enemy con yard and factory, their at your whim.

[nemafakei]

Not if they are sensible enough to deploy AA defences (remember, in the time you have to make 20 ornis, they can make 25 AT air drones)

[ThopterFanatic]

If your playing against Ordos, send one thopter in, and all their air mines will blow up and fire their missiles. Then, simply bring in your thopter force, and let em have it.  

[nemafakei]

Or tonnes of AA troopers. Or APCs. Or use subhouse units. It doesn't matter. The ornis alone are not indestructible. And they can be attacked on their pads... and all sorts of other things

[ThopterFanatic]

All right, I give up....but I always thoght the thopter was forgotten unit. Atriedes were supposed to have super air units, but the omni just isn't powerful enough. But maybe, if you stuck em in a protected place, and used minos and all the other units, you could use the thopter as a harvester-hunter( thats the main reason I use, for one)

[nemafakei]

Ornis are good units, but are only useful in certain situations. It's just that an all out attack is so easily defended against, if your opponent has some sense.

Hunting is a good idea, at least for the first few raids. Then the AA defences start to come in.