Hey guys

[lastgoyo]

Sup you guy~~ :)

i would like say about now what you're think whose best of best in emp player?

I pick spazelord and pearlmans these guys best player..

so anyone have opinion please ...write about you're think. also i don't want make agurment.

anyway. thanks you  :D

[lastgoyo]

lol hey old man ~ nice see u again.

thanks for write you're thinking i appreciate of that

yeah i realize missed you and scrhoip. cuz you guys didn't play so much longer..

anyway i know u also good player ::)

[spicy]

yeah .. am dam old .. and my skin is cold .. yeah my soul is full of holes

and my buddy starting to ache .. 

you know goyo ... i used to play games when i was 10 lol  30 years ago .. yeah

i was the best in my age and the kids used to call me the game killer

because there was a software called the game killer  which was used

to put the game on god mode and make nob players finish it

i was like that software lol i killed every game thrown at me in matter

of hours ,,, so they called me the game killer

yes 30 years ago before most of ure mums and dads ever met lol

i played 1000 of hours of dune back at 1990  .. 20 years ago

  alone ... u want to take a shot at me now ?  am not half the player i used to be

am not around anymore ?  wrong  !! i am around and ill see u on the server soon..

if u still around too ... maybe get in the next tourney...

see u friends  spicy loves u all ..

[alchemi2]

Another whose the BEST player thread, surprised you didn't just resurrect an old one!

What do you mean by the BEST?

A player who always wins?

Someone who never gives up?

Someone who is always fun to play with or against?

And do you mean NOW or back then?

The GOLDEN age never really was that Golden by the the time enough people had good connections and computers that ran the game without problems, the player based had all ready started to shrink.

Tactics too have totally changed over the years, when now do you see a fog of war match or epic 2nd & 3rd tier games? or the Ordos gas rush.

Two things Spicy one your maths is as good as your English (jk) and Spazelord is a very good player and probably would have been back in the day too.

[spicy]

i dont like him  ::)

edited :  he was playing back then  but never owned anyone

[desertway]

Well I am someone who actually played back in the day AND currently when I have time. I don't recall seeing spicy back in the day. As far as I can recall spicy never came online to play EBFD until about 2 1/2 years ago. Well after the "golden days" of Emp.

So my question to spicy is this... How could you possibly know who Spaze owned and didn't own back in the day? Or is it that your opinion needs no actual fact base to become gospel? Or you just don't like the fact that Spaze kicked ur butt so many times you feel that slamming him is the only way to get back at him.

I have played both of you. Spicy did indeed improve a great deal in the time he played. However at his best he was still not even in the same league as Spaze. At best Spicy made it to my league. Which is good by all means...but we're not quite in the "Elite" category.

[spicy]

first i want to say your  accent is too harsh des wtf man ?  haw about long time no see

and haw are u friend ?

i never said i am like spaze , were do u see that in what i posted ? i said that i got older

now and my head is not clear for gaming like it was when i was 17 ... didnt i say so ?

in fact lots of people see it strange that i still play video  games until this age ..

i dont know anyone around me that dose ... common the guy is 17 lol . it would make

lots of difference if u met me when i was 17 ..

am not trying to slam anyone des its always me who gets slammed

thanks for saying that i am ure level ,, actually u are older player than me and

u have more experience and i think u are better than me .. to correct some data

i started emping at 2004 on xwis i had an old pc and a dial up back then

not 2 years ago man lol .. kingpoker started 2 years ago not me ...

here is a post i made in early 2005 and i was deep into the game and discovering

new things  http://forum.dune2k.com/index.php?topic=17587.0

so this prove u are too harsh on me ..

man during all this time we spent on this game i read a lot of things and i chat

with lots of players including spaze and he told me he didnt use to own anyone

back then .. players like blibo and gun and dawg  haw come he didnt win any tours ?

i never saw his name with the greats back then and now in my opinion is too late

to actually be somebody in a dead server and this is the period when he started

promoting him self to the void ...

believe me .. spaze and i are cool  and he knows it .. am not making any opinions

on his level of play here  but when the game was on back in 2006  with 2vs2

i manged to block his ords army many many time but i must say i cant do the same

  to his harcks

i am very flexible to what others say about my level and his level its not that

what i am trying to talk about..

its just that spaze is not cool when it comes to 2vs2  he talks like a master to his slave

and he is often rude and he always pick on weaker teams and mostly lose with

a weaker partner .. which sets him in ranges of anger and swearing

am not trying to slam anyone des its always me who gets slammed

not cool like pearl and gun and dawg and never stood on the hard ground they

stood on when the real war was on ...

now if u dont like what i said dont take it as the fact .. its just what poor old

crazy spicy thinks ....  thanks desert

[gunner154]

i played 1000 of hours of dune back at 1990  .. 20 years ago

  alone ... u want to take a shot at me now ?  am not half the player i used to be

Sorry to spoil it, but the very first Dune game (the Cryo one) came out in 1992...

[spicy]

yes i mean back in the 90s

[alchemi2]

http://dune2k.com/Ladder/HallOfFame/

Well alot of players don't rate me but i'm still proud of those ladder appearances and the company i was in.  ;)

[spicy]

  what i mean u need to win more than 3 players to win a tourny .. i didnt mean to rate

u and lio  or to say if the players in the tourny is good or bad ...

  i was just looking at gunwounds old clan web that was posted here somwere .  and it was just amazing  haw u needed a 93% wins to enter the clan and 95 % wins to go to level 2

and then gun was at level one with more than 97% wins  i mean were was that spatchy

at that time ? i dont see his clan i dont see his  followers ..

i read about empworm and dawg and sardcore i talked to old players like korlover

and skumclam man no one even knows him ...

[alchemi2]

Well Emperor came out on 19th June 2001.

the Golden Age was really 2002.

By 2003 the WOL servers had begun too play up and the player base was rapidly shrinking.

Don't know how old Spazelord is (20ish?) Maybe like most he didn't play in the early days, Emperor probably was one of the most unadvertised and supported games of that era OR maybe he played under a different Nick back then.

I mean i don't remember your nick being about back then.......  ;)

And as for being too old too play games, I'm nearly 45 and a recent Granddad but i still love to play, although the reactions are somewhat slower than they were... ;D ;)

[spicy]

its ok lets leave spaze alone .. this has gone too far already ... he is 18 btw

well its not about reactions man .. u cant beat a good 17 yo player lol

he is just made to play .. its a part of his life .. not in ours

its all in the head man .. u get what am saying ?  we only have 1/4 of our

heads left now . lol  for the next 20 years that we are going to live ...

but the burst is already gone now .. that is what push u forwards ..

offcorse  alcohol ,, dope ,, perverted sex makes that end even closer

and i have had my good part of each of the above  ;D

[jeff2429]

http://dune2k.com/Ladder/HallOfFame/

Well alot of players don't rate me but i'm still proud of those ladder appearances and the company i was in.  ;)

Forgot I ever did that. Good times good times. 8)

[eid]

Depends on how you ask the question..

'Who's the best player?' is kinda ambiguous to me

whos the best at what?

I mean, i've seen some dam good players do their 'thing'-their speciality in those games,but there are other players mightier than them, and who can know their next move.

However thats not to say player A vs player B = B either.

I see a lot of diversity among us when we play.

even if it seems to be the same startup most of the time,something different happens every now and then..and thats where things can go horribly wrong!! :)

some players just have a 'set way' of playing and they stick to it,

'The tried and tested' way..

and i admire that,and dislike it at the same time.but it does add more character..

other players seem to like a good challenge.. and try things seemingly stupid or possible, but not doable..

that deserves merit.  a trickster

then there are others that just plain wanna win.  or dont like to loose,make 'unfair' teams

well.. they are the players we love to hate.

and you know you get a kick out of killing these types,Am i right??

theres even players who dont seem to have the micro, but they can build well, and support you even better, by giving you the units, and tech structures, and drop a artillery in there just when you need it,making sure you refs are full etc, you may think you can demolish them in a 1v1..but have no idea how the got the best of you in a 2v2..

id rather be outplayed than played out though

So  whos the best ?

[lastgoyo]

hehe~ ;D

so many people write their think..

i appreciate of that but some of topic is argument??? :-[

Anyway that's enough  ???... just show that play to us.

Talking can make possible to dominated universe  :'(

that is answer :)

[desertway]

Well it seemed to me that you were slamming Spaze about an era in which you had no first hand knowledge. If that is not the case, than I apologize.

And just as you...I am misunderstood. I was just trying to set the record straight and not slam anyone. If you feel slammed...than again I apologize.

As far as Spaze telling you he never owned anyone... If he had told you that he did, than what would you think? How many of the really good players tell you how good they really are?

Just offering my humble opinion as someone who has been here since day 1.

[spicy]

i never said that he is not good or that i have any ideas on his limits ...

i just said he wasnt there when those mountains stood .. maybe he was too

young or busy .. who knows ... i mean look at alchemy ladder ..

do u mind telling me were is his contributions ? 

i dont have the first hand knolegment of that era but i passed through few things

like looking at old clans webs .. or read some old posts or see some land srad

tourney heroes like dawg .. lol or even spend the night with the good

old drunk korlover were he keeps telling u the best players order for the past

  10 years after each game he plays hahaa i lurked in the lobby's  of this

  game and i dont see his name .. not before the server got empty

and the big guns has left the building

yes man his good but haw good ? u know haw many monsters this game had?

yes i know u know and i know u know their climax ..

i remember asking you once .. yes you desertway .. i asked you who is the best player

at that time (2006) you told me its poetwar a guy that was playing at that time

and u said by the word :  i dont know anyone that can beat him u never said

anything about spaze who didnt speak so load back then with jeff and gun hosting games

man i dont feel insulted .. and i dont want u to say sorry to me ..

u are  cool and nice and i will always like u  ..

but i was sad when u said that i want to slam spaze on the forum because he

keeps kicking my but on the sand .. now simply that is not the case

and i dont feel like that and that is not what i am trying to do

and i dont consider my self as a rival to spaze

ohh well yes its another one of those who is te best player threads

  i think there was tons of them on fisher

[alchemi2]

who knows ... i mean look at alchemy ladder ..

do u mind telling me were is his contributions ? 

Do you mean where are My contributions? or Spazes!

I didn't even join this forum till 06 September 2003, 01:52:20, Which if memory serves was around the time the official boards closed down. I had visit fed2k prior too that but only as a guest.

I have made quite a few comments and assisted numerous new players over the years and watched many of them grow to outstrip this frail old mans performance but whilst I've never been ELITE, i have had many a good game and still do on occasion (well when not too tired or drunk).  ;)

[spicy]

Do you mean where are My contributions? or Spazes!

I didn't even join this forum till 06 September 2003, 01:52:20, Which if memory serves was around the time the official boards closed down. I had visit fed2k prior too that but only as a guest.

I have made quite a few comments and assisted numerous new players over the years and watched many of them grow to outstrip this frail old mans performance but whilst I've never been ELITE, i have had many a good game and still do on occasion (well when not too tired or drunk).  ;)

yes i mean spaze ...  we see ure name  shining pretty  good work man ...

[spicy]

i know spaze is going to read what i said .. i never said anything that would

make him angry  or degread him .. its not by anyway offensive ..

all what i wanted to say to  lastgayo  is that u dont find the best player in a game

in a dead and empty server with no real competion ..

i think best players in this game were to be classified only when the game was

supported and the ladders were on ... like dawg . bilbo . gun .. jeff. skum.pearl ex....

i know spaze is not less than them but i wouldnt go that far by saying he is the best

one of them or at least lets say we will never know ...

i think that is a great thing for spaze and i dont see why he should claim for more

what he got now is what i called a lead roll in a cage ..

[gunner154]

This is sounding like a martial arts drama serial, with all the talk on the 'best player'. Chill it, seriously.

[spicy]

i like to keep talking about emp ,, the real stuff.. better than taking about

silly stuff at the religion philosophy  board  ..

[lastgoyo]

spicy i repact you're opinion also i agreed with you good player

but i don't want

blame to spze you don't need that.. :)

[spicy]

yes i am not blaming spaze .. if we are going to talk about haw good he is

why not say his bad points also ? 

i dont like to be in his room or in his team ...

he would always pick a stronger team and stick to it all night and if u

went to his team he will start giving u orders like if he is god or something

and if u didnt do what he wants or lose he would quit the game and start to

  get angry at you sometimes even rude .. he is not cool like other good players

like dawg and gunwounds  and maybe he thinks he is superior to everyone

which i dont agree

there is nothing wrong with saying that because thats what he dose