judeochristian messianistic prophecies

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There is a ton of twisting, such as the very thing you mentioned.  Such an example is the "not a bone broken".  I often hear this referenced.  Show me where this prophecy appears in the Tanakh.

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For someone well versed in the Tanakh, tell me purger what do Jews believe in ...in terms of a Messiah or the Future.  Are Jews still waiting for a Messiah...in the form of a man?  Do Jews believe the world will go on forever as we know it?  I certainly wouldnt want to misunderstand someone i am conversing with.

AC

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I'd like to first go back and see where these verses are that Jesus fulfills.

However, here is a little on the "messiah" described in the Tanakh and Old Testament.

1) The word

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I'd say this is pretty overwhelming

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/messiah.htm

Tenakh/Hebrew/Old Testament

Prophecies

Fulfilled by

Jesus Christ, Messiah

ALL of these prophesies were made hundreds, sometimes thousands, of years before Jesus Christ was born. Looking in the face of how He literally fulfilled them all (plus hundreds more), it is an impossibility that He is not Messiah, Saviour of the world. The ONLY person...past, present or future...who could fulfill all these prophecies is Jesus Christ. See His genealogy starting from faithful Abraham.

Fulfilled Prophecy Tenakh/Hebrew Scripture New Testament

His pre-existence Micah 5:2 John 1:1, 14

Born of the seed of a woman Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:18

Of the seed of Abraham Genesis 12:3 Matthew 1:1-16

All nations blessed by Abraham's seed Genesis 12:3 Matthew 8:5, 10

God would provide Himself a Lamb as an offering Genesis 22:8 John 1:29  

From the tribe of Judah Genesis 49:10 Matthew 1:1-3

Heir to the throne of David Isaiah 9:6-7 Matthew 1:1

Called "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" Isaiah 9:6 Matthew 1:23

Born in Bethlehem  Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1

Born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14  Matthew 1:18

His name called Immanuel, "God with us" Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:23

Declared to be the Son of God Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:17

His messenger before Him in spirit of Elijah Malachi 4:5-6 Luke 1:17

Preceded by a messenger to prepare His way Malachi 3:1 Matthew 11:7-11

Messenger crying "Prepare ye the way of the Lord" Isaiah 40:3 Matthew 3:3

Would be a Prophet of the children of Israel Deuteronomy 18:15 Matthew 2:15

Called out of Egypt Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:15

Slaughter of the children Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew2:18

Would be a Nazarene Judges 13:5; Amos 2:11;

Lam. 4:7 Matthew 2:23

Brought light to Zabulon & Nephthalm, Galilee of the Gentiles Isaiah 9:1-2 Matthew 4:15

Presented with gifts Psalm 72:10 Matthew 2:1, 11

Rejected by His own Isaiah 53:3 Matthew 21:42; Mark 8:31, 12:10; Luke 9:22, 17:25

He is the stone which the builders rejected which became the headstone Psalm 118:22-23; Isaiah 28:16 Matthew 21:42; I Peter 2:7

A stone of stumbling to Israel Isaiah 8:14-15 I Peter 2:8

He entered Jerusalem as a king

riding on an ass Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:5

Betrayed by a friend Psalms 41:9 John 13:21

Sold for 30 pieces of silver Zechariah 11:12 Matthew 26:15; Luke 22:5

The 30 pieces of silver given for the potter's field Zechariah 11:12 Matthew 27:9-10

The 30 pieces of silver thrown in the temple Zechariah 11:13 Matthew 27:5

Forsaken by His disciples Zechariah 13:7 Matthew 26:56

Accused by false witnesses Psalm 35:11 Matthew 26:60

Silent to accusations Isaiah 53:7 Matthew 27:14

Heal blind/deaf/lame/dumb Isaiah 35:5-6; Isaiah 29:18 Matthew 11:5

Preached to the poor/brokenhearted/captives Isaiah 61:1 Matthew 11:5

Came to bring a sword, not peace Micah 7:6 Matthew 10:34-35

He bore our sickness Isaiah 53:4 Matthew 8:16-17

Spat upon, smitten and scourged Isaiah 50:6, 53:5 Matthew 27:26, 30

Smitten on the cheek Micah 5:1 Matthew 27:30

Hated without a cause Psalm 35:19 Matthew 27:23

The sacrificial lamb Isaiah 53:5 John 1:29

Given for a covenant Isaiah 42:6; Jeremiah 31:31-34 Romans 11:27/Galatians 3:17, 4:24/Hebrews 8:6, 8, 10; 10:16, 29; 12:24; 13:20

Would not strive or cry Isaiah 42:2-3 Mark 7:36

People would hear not and see not Isaiah 6:9-10 Matthew 13:14-15

People trust in traditions of men Isaiah 29:13 Matthew 15:9

People give God lip service Isaiah 29:13 Matthew 15:8

God delights in Him Isaiah 42:1 Matthew 3:17, 17:5

Wounded for our sins Isaiah 53:5 John 6:51

He bore the sins of many Isaiah 53:10-12 Mark 10:45

Messiah not killed for Himself Daniel 9:26 Matthew 20:28

Gentiles flock to Him Isaiah 55:5, 60:3, 65:1; Malachi 1:11;

II Samuel 22:44-45; Psalm 2:7-8 Matthew 8:10

Crucified with criminals Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:35

His body was pierced Zechariah 12:10; Ps. 22:16 John 20:25, 27

Thirsty during execution Psalm 22:16 John 19:28

Given vinegar and gall for thirst Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34

Soldiers gambled for his garment Psalm 22:18 Matthew 27:35

People mocked, "He trusted in God, let Him deliver him!"  Psalm 22:7-8 Matthew 27:43

People sat there looking at Him Psalm 22:17 Matthew 27:36

Cried, "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?"  Psalm 22:1 Matthew 27:46

Darkness over the land Amos 8:9 Matthew 27:45

No bones broken Psalm 34:20, Numbers 9:12 John 19:33-36

Side pierced Zechariah 12:10 John 19:34

Buried with the rich Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57, 60

Resurrected from the dead Psalm 16:10-11; 49:15 Mark 16:6

Priest after the order of Melchizedek Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6; 6:20; 7:15-17

Ascended to right hand of God Psalm 68:18 Luke 24:51

LORD said unto Him, "Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool Psalm 110:1 Matt 22:44; Mark 12:36;, 16:19; Luke 20:42-43; Acts 2:34-35; Hebrews 1:13

His coming glory Malachi 3:2-3 Luke 3:17

Over 300 Messianic Prophecies

Gen. 3:15.....He will bruise Satan's head.....Heb. 2:14, 1 Jn. 3:18

Gen. 9:26,27...The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem...Lu. 3:36

Gen. 12:3...As Abraham's seed,will bless all nations...Acts. 3:25,26

Gen. 12:7...The Promise made to Abraham's Seed...Gal. 3:16

Gen. 14:18...A priest after Melchizedek...Heb. 6:20

Gen. 14:18........A King also........Heb. 7:2

Gen. 14:18...The Last Supper foreshadowed...Mt. 26:26-29

Gen. 17:19.......The Seed of Isaac.......Rom. 9:7

Gen. 22:8...The Lamb of God promised...Jn. 1:29

Gen. 22:18...As Isaac's seed, will bless all nations...Gal. 3:16

Gen.26:2-5..The Seed of Isaac promised as the Redeemer..Heb.11:18

Gen. 49:10...The time of His coming...Lu. 2:1-7; Gal. 4:4

Gen. 49:10.......The Seed of Judah.......Lu. 3:33

Gen. 49:10......Called Shiloh or One Sent......Jn. 17:3

Gen. 49:10...To come before Judah lost identity...Jn. 11:47-52

Gen. 49:10...To Him shall the obedience of the people be...Jn. 10:16

Ex. 3:13,14........The Great "I Am".......Jn. 4:26

Ex. 12:5...A Lamb without blemish...1 Pet. 1:19

Ex. 12:13...The blood of the Lamb saves from wrath...Rom. 5:8

Ex. 12:21-27...Christ is our Passover...1 Cor. 5;7

Ex. 12:46...Not a bone of the Lamb to be broken...Jn. 19:31-36

Ex. 15:2...His exaltation predicted as Yeshua...Acts 7:55,56

Ex. 15:11...His Character-Holiness...Luke 1:35; Acts 4:27

Ex. 17:6...The Spiritual Rock of Israel...1 Cor. 10;4

Ex. 33:19...His Character-Merciful...Lu. 1:72

Lev.14:11..The leper cleansed-Sign to priesthood..Lu.5:12-14; Acts 6:7

Lev.16:15-17...Prefigures Christ's once-for-all death...Heb. 9:7-14

Lev.16:27...Suffering outside the Camp...Mt. 27:33; Heb. 13:11, 12

Lev.17:11...The Blood-the life of the flesh...Mt. 26;28; Mk. 10:45

Lev.17:11...It is the blood that makes atonement...1 Jn. 3:14-18

Lev.23:36-37...The Drink-offering: "If any man thirst." ..Jn. 19:31-36

Num. 9:12...Not a bone of Him broken...John 19:31-36

Num. 21:9...The serpent on a pole-Christ lifted up...Jn. 3:14-18

Num. 24:17...Time: "I shall see him, but not now."...Gal. 4:4

Deut. 18:15..."This is of a truth that prophet."...Jn. 6:14

Deut. 18:15-16..."Had ye believed Moses, ye would believe me."...Jn. 5:45-47

Deut. 18:18...Sent by the Father to speak His word...Jn. 8:28, 29

Deut. 18:19...Whoever will not hear must bear his sin...Jn. 12:15,

Deut. 21:23...Cursed is he that hangs on a tree...Gal. 3:10-13

Ruth 4:4-9...Christ, our kinsman, has redeemed us...Eph. 1:3-7

1 Sam. 2:10...Shall be an anointed King to the Lord...Mt. 28:18; Jn. 12:15

2 Sam. 7:12...David's Seed...Mt. 1:1

2 Sam. 7:14a...The Son of God... Lu. 1:32

2 Sam. 7:16...David's house established forever...Lu. 3:31; Rev. 22:16

2 Ki. 2:11...The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated...Lu. 24:51

1 Chr. 17:11...David's Seed...Mt. 1:1; 9:27

1 Chr. 17:12, 13a...To reign on David's throne forever...Lu. 1:32, 33

1 Chr. 17:13a..."I will be His Father, He...my Son."...Heb. 1:5

Job 19:23-27...The Resurrection predicted...Jn. 5:24-29

Psa. 2:1-3...The enmity of kings foreordained...Acts 4:25-28

Psa. 2:2...To own the title, Anointed (Christ)...Acts 2:36

Ps. 2:6...His Character-Holiness...Jn. 8:46; Rev. 3:7

Ps. 2:6...To own the title King...Mt. 2:2

Ps. 2:7...Declared the Beloved Son...Mt. 3;17

Psa. 2:7, 8...The Crucifixion and Resurrection intimated...Acts 13:29-33

Psa. 2:12...Life comes through faith in Him...Jn. 20:31

Psa. 8:2...The mouths of babes perfect His praise...Mt. 21:16

Psa. 8:5, 6...His humiliation and exaltation...Lu. 24:50-53; 1 Cor. 15:27

Psa. 16:10...Was not to see corruption...Acts 2:31

Psa. 16:9-11...Was to arise from the dead...Jn. 20:9

Psa. 17;15...The resurrection predicted...Lu. 24:6

Psa. 22:1...Forsaken because of sins of others...2 Cor. 5:21

Psa. 22:1...Words spoken from Calvary, "My God..." Mk. 15:34

Psa. 22:2...Darkness upon Calvary...Mt. 27:45

Psa. 22:7...They shoot out the lip and shake the head...Mt. 27:39

Psa. 22:8.."He trusted in God, let Him deliver Him"...Mt. 27:43

Psa. 22:9......Born the Saviour......Lu. 2:7

Psa. 22:14...Died of a broken (ruptured)heart...Jn. 19:34

Psa. 22:14,15...Suffered agony on Calvary...Mk. 15:34-37

Psa. 22:15........He thirsted........Jn. 19:28

Psa. 22:16...They pierced His hands and His feet....Jn. 19:34,37;20:27

Psa. 22:17,18...Stripped Him before the stares of men...Lu. 23:34,35

Psa. 22:18.....They parted His garments.....Jn. 19:23,24

Psa. 22:20,21...He committed Himself to God...Lu.23:46

Psa. 22:20,21..Satanic power bruising the Redeemer's heel..Heb. 2:14

Psa. 22:22.....His Resurrection declared.....Jn. 20:17

Psa. 22:27...He shall be the governor of the nations...Col 1:16

Psa. 22:31......"It is finished"......Jn. 19:30

Psa. 23:1...."I am the Good Shephard"....Jn. 10:11

Psa. 24:3......His exaltation predicted......Acts 1:11; Phil. 2:9

Psa. 30:3......His resurrection predicted......Acts 2:32

Psa. 31:5..."Into thy hands I commit my spirit"...Lu. 23:46

Psa. 31:11...His acquaintances fled from Him...Mk. 14:50

Psa. 31:13...They took counsel to put Him to death...Jn. 11:53

Psa. 31:14,15..." He trusted in God, let Him deliver him"...Mt. 27:43

Psa. 34:20.....Not a bone of Him broken.....Jn 19:31-36

Psa. 35:11....False witnesses rose up against Him....Mt. 26:59

Psa. 35:19...He was hated without a cause...Jn. 15:25

Psa. 38:11.....His friends stood afar off.....Lu. 23:49

Psa. 40:2-5...The joy of His resurrection predicted...Jn. 20:20

Psa. 40:6-8....His delight-the will of the Father....Jn. 4:34

Psa. 40:9....He was to preach the Righteousness in Israel....Mt. 4:17

Psa. 40:14...Confronted by adversaries in the Garden...Jn. 18:4-6

Psa. 41:9.....Betrayed by a familiar friend.....Jn. 13:18

Psa. 45:2...Words of Grace come from His lips...Lu. 4:22

Psa. 45:6...To own the title, God or Elohim...Heb. 1:8

Psa. 45:7...A special anointing by the Holy Spirit...Mt.3:16; Heb.1:9

Psa. 45:7,8...Called the Christ (Messiah or Anointed)...Lu. 2:11

Psa. 55:12-14...Betrayed by a friend, not an enemy...Jn. 13:18

Psa. 55:15...Unrepentant death of the Betrayer...Mt. 27:3-5; Acts 1:16-19

Psa. 68:18...To give gifts to men...Eph. 4:7-16

Psa. 68:18...Ascended into Heaven...Lu. 24:51

Psa. 69:4...Hated without a cause...Jn. 15:25

Psa. 69:8...A stranger to own brethren...Lu. 8;20,21

Psa. 69:9...Zealous for the Lord's House...Jn. 2:17

Psa. 69:14-20...Messiah's anguish of soul before crucifixion...Mt. 26:36-45

Psa. 69:20..."My soul is exceeding sorrowful."...Mt. 26:38

Psa. 69:21...Given vinegar in thirst...Mt. 27:34

Psa. 69:26...The Saviour given and smitten by God...Jn. 17:4; 18:11

Psa. 72:10,11...Great persons were to visit Him...Mt. 2:1-11

Psa. 72:16...The corn of wheat to fall into the Ground...Jn. 12:24

Psa. 72:17...His name, Yinon, will produce offspring...Jn. 1:12,13

Psa. 72:17...All nations shall be blessed by Him...Acts 2:11,12,41

Psa. 78:1.2...He would teach in parables...Mt. 13:34-35

Psa. 78:2b...To speak the Wisdom of God with authority...Mt. 7:29

Psa. 88:8...They stood afar off and watched...Lu. 23:49

Psa. 89:27...Emmanuel to be higher than earthly kings...Lu. 1:32,33

Psa. 89:35-37...David's Seed, throne, kingdom endure forever...Lu. 1:32,33

Psa. 89:36-37...His character-Faithfulness...Rev. 1:5

Psa. 90:2...He is from everlasting (Micah 5:2)...Jn. 1:1

Psa. 91:11,12...Identified as Messianic; used to tempt Christ...Lu. 4;10,11

Psa. 97:9...His exaltation predicted...Acts 1:11;Eph. 1:20

Psa. 100:5...His character-Goodness...Mt. 19:16,17

Psa. 102:1-11...The Suffering and Reproach of Calvary...Jn. 21:16-30

Psa. 102:25-27...Messiah is the Preexistent Son...Heb. 1:10-12

Psa. 109:25...Ridiculed...Mt. 27:39

Psa. 110:1...Son of David...Mt. 22:43

Psa. 110:1...To ascend to the right-hand of the Father...Mk.16:19

Psa. 110:1...David's son called Lord...Mt. 22:44,45

Psa. 110:4...A priest after Melchizedek's order...Heb. 6:20

Psa. 112:4...His character-Compassionate, Gracious, et al... Mt. 9;36

Psa. 118:17,18...Messiah's Resurrection assured...Lu. 24:5-7;1 Cor. 15:20

Psa. 118:22,23...The rejected stone is Head of the corner...Mt. 21:42,43

Psa. 118:26a...The Blessed One presented to Israel...Mt. 21:9

Psa. 118:26b...To come while Temple standing...Mt. 21;12-15

Psa. 132:11...The Seed of David(the fruit of His Body)...Lu. 1:32

Psa. 138:1-6...The supremacy of David's Seed amazes kings... Mt. 2:2-6

Psa. 147:3,6...The earthly ministry of Christ described...Lu. 4:18

Psa. 1:23...He will send the Spirit of God... Jn. 16;7

Song. 5;16...The altogether lovely One...Jn. 1:17

Isa. 6:1...When Isaiah saw His glory... Jn. 12:40-41

Isa. 6:9-10...Parables fall on deaf ears...Mt. 13:13-15

Isa. 6:9-12...Blinded to Christ and deaf to His words...Acts. 28:23-29

Isa. 7:14...To be born of a virgin...Lu. 1:35

Isa. 7:14...To be Emmanuel-God with us... Mt. 1:18-23

Isa. 8:8...Called Emmanuel...Mt. 28:20

Isa. 8:14...A stone of stumbling, a Rock of offense... 1 Pet. 2:8

Isa. 9:1,2...His ministry to begin in Galilee...Mt. 4:12-17

Isa. 9:6...A child born-Humanity...Lu. 1:31

Isa. 9:6...A Son given-Deity...Lu. 1:32; Jn. 1;14; 1 Tim. 3:16

Isa. 9:6...Declared to be the Son of God with power... Rom. 1:3,4

Isa. 9:6...The Wonderful One, Peleh...Lu. 4:22

Isa. 9:6...The Counsellor, Yaatz...Mt. 13:54

Isa. 9:6...The Mighty God, El Gibor...Mt. 11:20

Isa. 9:6...The Everlasting Father, Avi Adth...Jn. 8:58

Isa. 9:6...The Prince of Peace, Sar Shalom...Jn . 16:33

Isa. 9:7...To establish an everlasting kingdom...Lu. 1:32-33

Isa. 9:7...His Character-Just...Jn. 5:30

Isa. 9:7...No end to his Government, Throne, and Peace...Lu. 1:32-33

Isa. 11:1...Called a Nazarene-the Branch, Netzer...Mt. 2:23

Isa. 11:1...A rod out of Jesse-Son of Jesse...Lu. 3:23,32

Isa. 11:2...The anointed One by the Spirit...Mt. 3;16,17

Isa. 11:2...His Character-Wisdom, Understanding, et al....Jn. 4:4-26

Isa. 11:4...His Character-Truth...Jn. 14:6

Isa. 11:10...The Gentiles seek Him...Jn. 12:18-21

Isa. 12:2...Called Jesus-Yeshua...Mt. 1:21

Isa. 25:8...The Resurrection predicted...I Cor. 15:54

Isa. 26:19...His power of Resurrection predicted...Jn. 11:43,44

Isa. 28:16...The Messiah is the precious corner stone...Acts 4:11,12

Isa. 29:13...He indicated hypocritical obedience to His Word...Mt. 15:7-9

Isa. 29:14...The wise are confounded by the Word...I Cor. 1:18-31

Isa. 32:2...A Refuge-A man shall be a hiding place...Mt. 23:37

Isa. 35:4...He will come and save you...Mt. 1:21

Isa. 35:5...To have a ministry of miracles...Mt. 11:4-6

Isa. 40:3,4...Preceded by forerunner...Jn. 1:23

Isa. 40:9..."Behold your God."...Jn. 1:36;19:14

Isa. 40:11...A shepherd-compassionatelife-giver...Jn. 10:10-18

Isa. 42:1-4...The Servant-as a faithful, patient redeemer... Mt.12:18-21

Isa. 42:2...Meek and lowly... Mt. 11:28-30

Isa. 42:3...He brings hope for the hopeless... Jn. 4

Isa. 42:4...The nations shall wait on His teachings... Jn. 12:20-26

Isa. 42:6...The Light (salvation) of the Gentiles...Lu. 2:32

Isa. 42:1,6...His is a Worldwide compassion... Mt. 28:19,20

Isa. 42:7...Blind eyes opened... Jn. 9:25-38

Isa. 43:11...He is the only Saviour... Acts. 4:12

Isa. 44:3...He will send the Spirit of God... Jn. 16:7,13

Isa. 45:23...He will be the Judge... Jn. 5:22;Rom. 14:11

Isa. 48:12...The First and the Last...Jn. 1:30;Rev. 1:8,17

Isa. 48:17...He came as a Teacher...Jn. 3:2

Isa. 49:1...Called from the womb-His humanity...Mt. 1:18

Isa. 49:5...A Servant from the womb...Lu. 1:31;Phil. 2:7

Isa. 49:6...He is Salvation for Israel...Lu. 2:29-32

Isa. 49:6...He is the Light of the Gentiles...Acts 13:47

Isa. 49:6...He is Salvation unto the ends of the earth... Acts 15:7-18

Isa. 49:7...He is despised of the Nation... Jn. 8:48-49

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Isa. 50:4...He is a learned counsellor for the weary... Mt. 11:28,29

Isa. 50:5...The Servant bound willingly to obedience... Mt. 26:39

Isa. 50:6a..."I gave my back to the smiters."... Mt. 27:26

Isa. 50:6b...He was smitten on the cheeks... Mt. 26:67

Isa. 50:6c...He was spat upon... Mt. 27:30

Isa. 52:7...To publish good tidings of peace... Lu. 4:14,15

Isa. 52:13...The Servant exalted...Acts 1:8-11; Eph. 1:19-22

Isa. 52:13...Behold, My Servant... Mt. 17:5; Phil. 2:5-8

Isa. 52:14...The Servant shockingly abused... Lu. 18:31-34; Mt. 26:67,68

Isa. 52:15...Nations startled by message of the Servant... Rom. 15:18-21

Isa. 52:15...His blood shed to make atonement for all... Rev. 1:5

Isa. 53:1...His people would not believe Him... Jn. 12:37-38

Isa. 53:2a...He would grow up in a poor family.... Lu. 2:7

Isa. 53:2b...Appearance of an ordinary man... Phil. 2:7-8

Isa. 53:3a...Despised.... Lu. 4:28-29

Isa. 53:3b...Rejected... Mt. 27:21-23

Isa. 53:3c...Great sorrow and grief... Lu. 19:41-42

Isa. 53:3d...Men hide from being associated with Him... Mk. 14:50-52

Isa. 53:4a...He would have a healing ministry... Lu. 6:17-19

Isa. 53:4b...He would bear the sins of the world... 1 Pet. 2:24

Isa. 53:4c...Thought to be cursed by God... Mt. 27:41-43

Isa. 53:5a...Bears penalty for mankind's transgressions... Lu. 23:33

Isa. 53:5b...His sacrifice would provide peace between man and God... Col. 1:20

Isa. 53:5c...His back would be whipped... Mt. 27:26

Isa. 53:6a...He would be the sin-bearer for all mankind...Gal. 1:4

Isa. 53:6b...God's will that He bear sin for all mankind... 1 Jn. 4:10

Isa. 53:7a...Oppressed and afflicted... Mt. 27:27-31

Isa. 53:7b...Silent before his accusers... Mt. 27:12-14

Isa. 53:7c...Sacrificial lamb... Jn. 1:29

Isa. 53:8a...Confined and persecuted... Mt. 26:47-27:31

Isa. 53:8b...He would be judged... Jn. 18:13-22

Isa. 53:8c...Killed.... Mt. 27:35

Isa. 53:8d...Dies for the sins of the world... 1 Jn. 2:2

Isa. 53:9a...Buried in a rich man's grave... Mt. 27:57

Isa. 53:9b...Innocent and had done no violence... Mk. 15:3

Isa. 53:9c...No deceit in his mouth... Jn. 18:38

Isa. 53:10a...God's will that He die for mankind... Jn. 18:11

Isa. 53:10b...An offering for sin... Mt. 20:28

Isa. 53:10c...Resurrected and live forever.... Mk. 16:16

Isa. 53:10d...He would prosper... Jn. 17:1-5

Isa. 53:11a...God fully satisfied with His suffering... Jn. 12:27

Isa. 53:11b...God's servant... Rom. 5:18-19

Isa. 53:11c...He would justify man before God... Rom. 5:8-9

Isa. 53:11d...The sin-bearer for all mankind... Heb. 9:28

Isa. 53:12a...Exalted by God because of his sacrifice... Mt. 28:18

Isa. 53:12b...He would give up his life to save mankind... Lu. 23:46

Isa. 53:12c...Grouped with criminals... Lu. 23:32

Isa. 53:12d...Sin-bearer for all mankind... 2 Cor. 5:21

Isa. 53:12e...Intercede to God in behalf of mankind... Lu. 23:34

Isa. 55:3...Resurrected by God... Acts 13:34

Isa. 55:4...A witness... Jn. 18:37

Isa. 59:15-16a...He would come to provide salvation... Jn. 6:40

Isa. 59:15-16b...Intercessor between man and God... Mt. 10:32

Isa. 59:20...He would come to Zion as their Redeemer... Lu. 2:38

Isa. 61:1-2a...The Spirit of God upon him... Mt. 3:16-17

Isa. 61:1-2b...The Messiah would preach the good news... Lu. 4:17-21

Isa. 61:1-2c...Provide freedom from the bondage of sin and death... Jn. 8:31-32

Isa. 61:1-2...Proclaim a period of grace... Jn. 5:24

Jer.23:5-6a...Descendant of David...Lu. 3:23-31

Jer. 23:5-6b...The Messiah would be God... Jn. 13:13

Jer. 23:5-6c...The Messiah would be both God and Man... 1 Tim. 3:16

Jer. 31:22...Born of a virgin... Mt. 1:18-20

Jer. 31:31...The Messiah would be the new covenant... Mt. 26:28

Jer. 33:14-15...Descendant of David... Lu. 3:23-31

Eze.17:22-24...Descendant of David... Lk. 3:23-31

Eze.34:23-24...Descendant of David... Mt. 1:1

Dan. 7:13-14a...He would ascend into heaven... Acts 1:9-11

Dan. 7:13-14b...Highly exalted... Eph. 1:20-22

Dan. 7:13-14c...His dominion would be everlasting... Lu. 1:31-33

Dan. 9:24a...To make an end to sins... Gal. 1:3-5

Dan. 9:24b...He would be holy... Lu. 1:35

Dan. 9:25...Announced to his people 483 years, to the exact day, after the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem... Jn. 12:12-13

Dan. 9:26a...Killed... Mt. 27:35

Dan. 9:26b...Die for the sins of the world... Heb. 2:9

Dan. 9:26c...Killed before the destruction of the temple... Mt. 27:50-51

Dan. 10:5-6...Messiah in a glorified state... Rev. 1:13-16

Hos. 13:14...He would defeat death... 1 Cor. 15:55-57

Joel 2:32...Offer salvation to all mankind... Rom. 10:12-13

Mic. 5:2a...Born in Bethlehem... Mt. 2:1-2

Mic. 5:2b...God's servant... Jn. 15:10

Mic. 5:2c...From everlasting... Jn. 8:58

Hag. 2:6-9...He would visit the second Temple... Lu. 2:27-32

Hag. 2:23...Descendant of Zerubbabel... Lu. 3:23-27

Zech. 3:8...God's servant... Jn. 17:4

Zech. 6:12-13...Priest and King... Heb. 8:1

Zech. 9:9a...Greeted with rejoicing in Jerusalem... Mt. 21:8-10

Zech. 9:9b...Beheld as King... Jn. 12:12-13

Zech. 9:9c...The Messiah would be just... Jn. 5:30

Zech. 9:9d...The Messiah would bring salvation... Luke 19:10

Zech. 9:9e...The Messiah would be humble... Mt. 11:29

Zech. 9:9f...Presented to Jerusalem riding on a donkey... Mt. 21:6-9

Zech. 10:4...The cornerstone... Eph. 2:20

Zech. 11:4-6a...At His coming, Israel to have unfit leaders... Mt. 23:1-4

Zech. 11:4-6b...Rejection causes God to remove His protection.. Lu. 19:41-44

Zech. 11:4-6c...Rejected in favor of another king... Jn. 19:13-15

Zech. 11:7...Ministry to "poor," the believing remnant... Mt. 9:35-36

Zech. 11:8a...Unbelief forces Messiah to reject them... Mt. 23:33

Zech. 11:8b...Despised... Mt. 27:20

Zech. 11:9...Stops ministering to the those who rejected Him... Mt. 13:10-11

Zech. 11:10-11a...Rejection causes God to remove protection... Lu. 19:41-44

Zech. 11:10-11b...The Messiah would be God... Jn. 14:7

Zech. 11:12-13a...Betrayed for thirty pieces of silver... Mt. 26:14-15

Zech. 11:12-13b...Rejected... Mt. 26:14-15

Zech. 11:12-13c...Thirty pieces of silver thrown into the house of the Lord... Mt. 27:3-5

Zech. 11:12-13d...The Messiah would be God... Jn. 12:45

Zech. 12:10a...The Messiah's body would be pierced... Jn. 19:34-37

Zech. 12:10b...The Messiah would be both God and man... Jn. 10:30

Zech. 12:10c...The Messiah would be rejected... Jn. 1:11

Zech. 13:7a...God's will He die for mankind... Jn. 18:11

Zech. 13:7b...A violent death... Mt. 27:35

Zech. 13:7c...Both God and man.. Jn. 14:9

Zech. 13:7d...Israel scattered as a result of rejecting Him... Mt. 26:31-56

Mal. 3:1a...Messenger to prepare the way for Messiah... Mt. 11:10

Mal. 3:1b...Sudden appearance at the temple... Mk. 11:15-16

Mal. 3:1c...Messenger of the new covenant... Lu. 4:43

Mal. 4:5...Forerunner in the spirit of Elijah... Mt. 3:1-2

Mal. 4:6...Forerunner would turn many to righteousness... Lu. 1:16-17

[GUNWOUNDS]

Btw,  Thanks for your Jewish interpretation of Messiah, its helps me understand what Jews think and why.  Understanding someone is always good.  Judaism isnt something that is discussed alot on these boards, so hopefully this discussion can continue here or in another thread. Atleast now i have something else to research aside from "christianity vs islam". 

[Purge]

Taking fragments of sentences, and sentences out of context does not make them prophecies.  You are saying he fulfilled prophecies that weren't prophecies.  The no broken bones stuff is how to sacrifice during passover, and was a law, not a prochecy.  This is just one of many.  The whole book of Isaiah is about Israel, G-d's servant, G-d's son, it says so all through the entire book.

The criteria for messiah was outlined above.  It is irrelevent that Jesus was written - again by a man who started preaching 20 years after the death of Jesus - to have done things that were written to describe things as they happened in the Tanakh.

Calling them prophecies and saying Jesus fulfilled them is ridiculous.  To be the messiah he had to fulfill the criteria of the messiah, and he didn't.  It still hasn't been done.  It's ignoring the fact that he didn't fulfill the criteria of the Jewish messiah.  It's nice that he did some things that other people in the Tanakh did before him, but nobody said applying things like sacrifices for animals to a future man it never implied was a prophecy.  Sacrificing humans is forbidden.  The Jews would have stoned him.  Crucifiction was a Roman punishment.

With the type of logic the thing you posted uses, this is also possible:

A Chassidic Rabbi Makes a Startling Discovery

My name is Moshe and I am a Chassidic Jew who has, from my youth, learned the words of our Holy Prophets, and has been puzzled by their meaning. Then, on the day before Yom Kippur, I contemplated the solemnity of the day and was made aware of the amazing meaning of G-d

[Purge]

It's also worth noting that Jesus' geneologies don't even match up with eachother.

Geneology according to Matthew

    * David

    * Solomon

    * Rehoboam

    * Abijah

    * Asa

    * Jehoshaphat

    * Jehoram

    * Uzziah

    * Jotham

    * Ahaz

    * Hezekiah

    * Manasseh

    * Amon

    * Josiah

    * Jeconiah

    * Shealtiel

    * Zerubbabel

    * Abiud

    * Eliakim

    * Azor

    * Zadok

    * Achim

    * Eliud

    * Eleazar

    * Matthan

    * Jacob

    * Joseph

    * Jesus

Geneology according to Luke

    * David

    * Nathan

    * Mattatha

    * Menna

    * Melea

    * Eliakim

    * Jonam

    * Joseph

    * Judah

    * Simeon

    * Levi

    * Matthat

    * Jorim

    * Eliezer

    * Joshua

    * Er

    * Elmadam

    * Cosam

    * Addi

    * Melki

    * Neri

    * Shealtiel

    * Zerubbabel

    * Rhesa

    * Joanan

    * Joda

    * Josech

    * Semein

    * Mattathias

    * Maath

    * Naggae

    * Esli

    * Nahum

    * Amos

    * Mattathias

    * Joseph

    * Jannai

    * Melchi

    * Levi

    * Matthat

    * Heli

    * Joseph

    * Jesus

[Caid Ivik]

Well, if you are so familiar with the Old Testament, Purge, then you may know that a hebrew widow went to her brother in law after husband's death. Thus it was possible for Joseph to have two fathers, one genetical and one legal. Altough in my own opinion, Joseph's ancestors knew only David as they were proud on him...while both gospels were written at least a half-century after Joseph's death, so to expect accuracy would be the same as to say that the world is 6 thousand years old and that Adam himself lived for 8 centuries  ::)

That's the turning point between orthodoxa and catholicism, in the original sense of words; one searches for differences between the sects, the other for common points. Altough today we hear even oxymorons like "orthodox catholics" daily, and in fact the Church didn't always behave so open as today.

Btw, next time do not flood the sticked topic, especially if you don't introduce others to the good and evil. I think you both present clear views, and it doesn't need pasting whole webpages, look for FAQ if you want to make a hyperlink.

[christrox316]

Luke and Matthew wrote the same exact geneologies from differing points of view.

And the fact is the Jesus fulfilled every Old Testament prophecy that he was meant to fulfill.

And another thing...if Jesus was not the Messiah then He did not come back from the dead.

So why did His followers, cowards all of them, suddenly go from denying Him to proclaiming Him in the streets?

[exatreide]

Well, if you are so familiar with the Old Testament, Purge, then you may know that a hebrew widow went to her brother in law after husband's death. Thus it was possible for Joseph to have two fathers, one genetical and one legal. Altough in my own opinion, Joseph's ancestors knew only David as they were proud on him...while both gospels were written at least a half-century after Joseph's death, so to expect accuracy would be the same as to say that the world is 6 thousand years old and that Adam himself lived for 8 centuries  ::)

That's the turning point between orthodoxa and catholicism, in the original sense of words; one searches for differences between the sects, the other for common points. Altough today we hear even oxymorons like "orthodox catholics" daily, and in fact the Church didn't always behave so open as today.

Btw, next time do not flood the sticked topic, especially if you don't introduce others to the good and evil. I think you both present clear views, and it doesn't need pasting whole webpages, look for FAQ if you want to make a hyperlink.

The posts didn't bother me at all when I had to check fed2k on my uncles 56k.

[Egeides]

Purge, could you put in a few points which prophecies were not respected? I already read a few comments from Jews disagreeing with Jesus being the Messiah, but I disagreed a bit too easily and you might have more.

[Khorne]

Purge, just for interest sake - Into what group of Judaism do you fall?

[TMA_1]

It is because they are two different bloodlines entirely, purge.

[Anathema]

oxymorons like "orthodox catholics" daily,

Orthodox Catholic isn't an oxymoron. It refers to the unified church that existed before the mutual excommunication. I have never seen the term used as meaning something else.

[Caid Ivik]

Orthodox Catholic isn't an oxymoron. It refers to the unified church that existed before the mutual excommunication. I have never seen the term used as meaning something else.

Also muslims were united until the fitna in 656, however you cannot talk about "sunno-shia community" when referring to it. And as the difference between original `Ali's and 'Umayyad branches were originally purely political, same was also with the relations between the bishop of Rome and patriarch of Greeks. Like today between Moscow and Istanbul, could be said within orthodox christianity; I doubt historians will call it once a "greco-russian church".

[Anathema]

That's a flawed analogy.

The Roman pre-schism church was catholic ("universal") and it was the "orthodox" version of christianity, in the eyes of the Romans east and west. After the schism the terms catholic and orthodox started being used seperately to differentiate between the two seperated churches.

On the other hand, AFAIK the terms "sunni" and "shia" were terms invented to differentiate between the schismatic sects of Islam. Before the Islamic schism we can simply speak of the Islam, while prior to the Catholic/Orthodox schism there was a multitude of different christian sects.

Grecco-Russian church sounds weird (moreso because it has more branches then Greek and Russian) but it isn't all that innaccurate. Afterall they're in communion with eachother, they just have autonomous patriarchs.

[Caid Ivik]

Catholicism teaches a communion between all christians as well; practically, for many catholics is it of no problem to participate on an orthodox or protestant mass (in this I'm personally a fanatic who has no problem to go into a mosque, but I don't want to tell this about all ;) ), catholic law accepts baptism of most churches as well. As the excommunication between Greece and Rome was lifted up already, we can't speak about a legal 'borders' of catholicism (or orthodoxa) within christianity now. What remains are the political and philosophical terms, which are mutually exclusive. Either you take strict tradition or interpretation; the sunna or imam.

It's the meaning, which is important, not the use, which is bordered only by human phantasy ;)