Atreides Ornithopters

[Dominic]

Okay, I feel embarresed to be posting this, but how do you knock down the Ornithopters? They are really starting to piss me off and nothing I've tried has worked.  :-*

[Dominic]

19 Views and still no reply? Come on, answer somebody.

[Gobalopper]

You need to hit it with a missile. So:

[Dominic]

Thanks, glad somebody answered.  :D

[Spectral Paladin]

Are you certain troopers fire at planes? I thought this happened only in emperor.

[MrFlibble]

I'm 100% sure Missile Turrets hit 'thopters, but not sure about Launchers and Troopers. Think Troopers couldn't hit air units in Dune II, as well as in Dune2k.

[Spectral Paladin]

If I remember well, in dune 2 and dune2k the apart from turrets the launchers could hit planes as well but not troopers. I think this is because launchers and turrets fired missiles while troopers fired rockets.

[Gobalopper]

I think you are right about Troopers... its been a while since I played. :)

[Terror]

Yeah, only missile turrets and rocket tanks can hit ornithopters. Rocket tanks are not very good at killing them though.

[MrFlibble]

I've never seen a launcher in action cuz in later missions I always build a Missile Turret ASAP to get rid of those Ornis (they crushed me very bad the first time, argh!), but this screenie definitely shows a Launcher attack an Orni (although it seems to be a demo/beta screenshot):

[Terror]

Yeah well i'm 100% sure it fires in my version. But it just isn't the best orni killer you can get. Rocket turrets are better. And yes.. in the early game those ornithopters can crush your forces pretty badly.

[Spectral Paladin]

Uh, the disagreement was over whether troopers can fire, not about missile tanks.

[spicy]

do u playe on line?

[MrFlibble]

Uh, the disagreement was over whether troopers can fire, not about missile tanks.

Yep, but I used to think for a long time that no units could actually fire at ornis in Dune 2, only Missile Turrets.

do u playe on line?

If you mean Dune 2, there's no oficial multiplayer mode. Although I've heard of an unofficial multiplayer patch for Dune 2, I dunno whether it does exist or not. Or if it can be acquired somewhere by now ???

[stefanhendriks]

Bumping badly, but...

There is no networking patch for dune 2. Have been searching for it over 5 years. Heard about it too, but there is NONE. I did find a 'crack' once,  by a group with a name "network" or something. (or the word "network" is in their name somehow). There is no networking gaming possible in DUNE 2 itself. It would require reverse enginering the game, building it again and then add network possibility. Something easier is rewriting the game from scratch like Dune Legacy or D2TM try to do.

[Spectral Paladin]

Is that you advertising D2TM?  ;D

[stefanhendriks]

didn't you know? Its my primary job. Keep advertising, never finish the product. And never keep up with promised Features. And no, i don't work for microsoft :P ;)

[MrFlibble]

And no, i don't work for microsoft :P ;)

Well, you probably should. You've got all the qualities they need ;D

[stefanhendriks]

yeah i know, but they don;t have the money to pay me for my superb services :D

[MrFlibble]

I'm 100% sure Missile Turrets hit 'thopters, but not sure about Launchers and Troopers. Think Troopers couldn't hit air units in Dune II, as well as in Dune2k.

I have to apologize for the somewhat incorrect information I have provided - it was based on insufficient observation of Dune II unit behavior. In fact, all rocket/missile type weapons can target ornithopters, as Gobalopper pointed out. The trick is, that troopers, trooper squads and rocket launchers have problems targeting the fast 'thopters because of their slow turning speed, but they actively attack them anyway, even though they rarely have a chance to hit.

[Windwalker]

Troopers shoot thopters.. Wow... You learn a new thing everyday. Probably when thopters are around, troopers are never produced by player, so thats why I did not notice that. Works fine for me though. I am trying to make all kinds of infantry uncrushable except by harvesters and devastators. I am also planning to greatly increase the power need for misile turret. So misile tanks and troopers will be more viable against thopter. Thopter itself will be more viable, too.

More balancing... more...

[vota dc]

I have to apologize for the somewhat incorrect information I have provided - it was based on insufficient observation of Dune II unit behavior. In fact, all rocket/missile type weapons can target ornithopters, as Gobalopper pointed out. The trick is, that troopers, trooper squads and rocket launchers have problems targeting the fast 'thopters because of their slow turning speed, but they actively attack them anyway, even though they rarely have a chance to hit.

Troopers are useful to destroy enemy carryalls where they are picking other units.Even if they can hit ornythopters,they made too few damage.

[SparrowsOfDune]

I think RTs are best but on open sand you only have Troopers or Missile tanks. The MTs are best but innacurate. Troopers will not kill an ornithopter in one hit, but are more accurate I think. Both do better against carryalls as they are slower.