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Edric O
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Should Charles be pre-emptively beheaded?  

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  1. 1. Should Charles be pre-emptively beheaded?

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    • Nay, but the Tower of London could use a new tourist attraction...
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Mahdi

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Charles will never take the crown.  He'll pass it down to William, who will be crowned King Arthur (Arthur being one of his many names) in an effort to combat the current anti-monarch sentiments in Britain and elsewhere.

Edric O

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Will he be King Arthur the Second? Or the First since the first Arthur wasn't technically a British monarch? (assuming he existed)

Edric O

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Charles deserves it and shouldn't pass it down.

I agree. Considering Charles' vast unpopularity, giving him the crown is the fastest way to ensure the end of the monarchy. :)

Long live the British... Republic? Commonwealth? Federal Republic?

Anathema

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Said Arthur was not king of the United Kingdom, so the numbering would start at 1 again. That's assuming there wasn't some other Arthur wich ruled over the UK that I'm not aware of.

Edric O

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In the UK opinion isn't totally against Charles.

You're right. Not quite totally. I believe the % of people who don't want him king is around 80%...

Anathema

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It will probably just all blow over. Our royal family survived a would-be socialist/republican revolution in 1918. When our current queen decided to marry, of all possible candidates, a German some people with WW2 sentiments got pretty pissed. Her coronation was accompanied by riots (not against the coronation, it was about a totally different social issue and the rioters just seized the opportunity to cause a mess). However our royal family still stands very strong. I don't think this business around Charles is going to cause the British monarchy to fall.

Mahdi

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Will he be King Arthur the Second? Or the First since the first Arthur wasn't technically a British monarch? (assuming he existed)

Actually, is he did exist and he was a king then, yes, he was the King of the British.  There's a difference between British and English ethnically.

Said Arthur was not king of the United Kingdom, so the numbering would start at 1 again. That's assuming there wasn't some other Arthur wich ruled over the UK that I'm not aware of.

There were at least 6 King Arthurs known to history who ruled over British kingdoms, and at least one historic King Arthur who ruled after the Scots, all presumably named after The King Arthur.

But the counting would probably start at one because at the time of there rule the island of britain was divided intoa  number of small kingdoms, each of which was divided into smaller client kingdoms.  None ruled over the entirety of the British Island or the medival British Empire.

Anathema

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That's what I meant to imply, the counting would start over again with the creation of the United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) or with the Act of Union (English + Scottish kingdoms)

Khan

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Long live the British... Republic? Commonwealth? Federal Republic?

No no, Monarchy, just different monarchs, all we need to do is get rid of that pesky parliament.

Edric O

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Much less, It's around 40% according to the Daily Telegraph.

Haha, well, what can you expect from the official Tory propaganda paper? I bet they're predicting Michael Howard to be the next Prime Minister, too.

I hope it doesn't.  I guess people who don't have a monarchy can't always appreciate one.

Name one good thing about a monarchy (other than "it's our tradition"), and explain why it makes up for having to put up with arrogant inbreds who live off taxes and inherited wealth.

I don't think this business around Charles is going to cause the British monarchy to fall.

You're probably right, of course, but one can always hope... :)

Dunenewt

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Haha, well, what can you expect from the official Tory propaganda paper? I bet they're predicting Michael Howard to be the next Prime Minister, too.

Their opinion poll shows the parties equal, but Tony Blair is ahead as a leader.

Name one good thing about a monarchy (other than "it's our tradition"), and explain why it makes up for having to put up with arrogant inbreds who live off taxes and inherited wealth.

It's out tradition is a good enough reason, but if you need another, its that most people look up to the Monarchy (some of them anyway) and our soldiers would die to protect the queen.  Its our national identity, our culture, and no European is going to take that from us.

You're probably right, of course, but one can always hope... :)

It's none of your business really. In your backwards country you can stick to honouring your former dictator.  Here, we'll stick to our Monarchy.

erjin999

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Newt, you meant "our Monarchy".

As for Charles, I dont care much for "Diana and Charles" story, they both were involved, although Diana certainly "put it about"  ;)

Charles now seems like a nice person, perhaps a bit dopey, but nice enough. Make him king or not ? If someones got to be king why not him ? They dont do much, wave in a funny "poosh" (posh) way.

I think our soldiers would fight anyway, regardless of the king/queen situation.

Leave the man alone, he is a nice enough person.  >:(  hehe

Edric O

Edric O

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It's out tradition is a good enough reason

Why? Traditions change.

but if you need another, its that most people look up to the Monarchy (some of them anyway)

Fine, then let the Monarchy survive through voluntary donations rather than tax money. Those who like royals so much can still pay to have them. Everybody else can use their money for more worthwhile causes, like feeding starving children in Africa.

and our soldiers would die to protect the queen.

A good British soldier would die to protect any British citizen. Honour demands it, and that's what soldiers do.

Its our national identity, our culture

National identities change. Cultures change. There would be no Britain today if the Celts, or the Saxons, or the Normans had stuck to their original national identities and cultures.

It's none of your business really.

Of course, I can't speak for the British people, but neither can you. We're just stating our personal views.

Charles now seems like a nice person, perhaps a bit dopey, but nice enough. Make him king or not ? If someones got to be king why not him ? They dont do much, wave in a funny "poosh" (posh) way.

Well... how about holding elections to decide who gets to be king? :D

Leave the man alone, he is a nice enough person. >:( hehe

It just seemed like a funny joke to make this topic, and now good ol' Newt is very entertaining. ;)

Dude_Doc

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American Cyborg: Well your royal family is French of origin, isn't it? All the more reason to kick them out

Well, I wouldn't care what kind of origin the king came from, but how he drives - and especially drunk and such, that should be the only reason for people to think twice. ::)

Dante

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Charles is... boring. I wouldn't want him as a king. He's dull, unimaginative, and completely incapable of manipulating his position to suit his own ends. He blunders through one PR disaster after another. The point of royalty is to be the best, not a laughing stock.

I voted nay, if only because I don't think pre-emptive beheading is the way to go. I think it would be a whole lot neater if he were to marry Camilla, forfeit the throne, and have the crown passed on to William. All sorted.

...Though I wonder to myself if a monarchy has much point when they don't do any actual ruling...

erjin999

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Well... how about holding elections to decide who gets to be king? :D

Do you know how much grief it is to vote ?!

Just get the candidates to draw straws, thats how much it means to me. But Charles is funny, up for anything type (heck, look at Camilla, the mans up for anything ! - ooohhhh, harsh !). He has an endearing quality.

Plus a vote would cost money.

Mahdi

Mahdi

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I'd like to point out that he isn't just Englands king.  Canada and I believe Australia (and probably a number of other members of the common wealth) have there own seperate crowns so, technically, Charles could become King of England and William could become King of Canada and Harry could become King of Australia. 

Technically.

Dante

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The crowns aren't seperate, I don't think. The monarch of Britain is technically monarch of Australia as well, among other places.

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