Innocent Palestinians

[otheymzefedaykin]

Replace "palestinians" with "jews" in that statement, and you have a quote from Mein Kampf...

You have read Mein Kampf ???

[Wolf]

Edric has read quite a lot.

[Edric O]

but it's not! cos this statement is true. Mein Kamf is just a bunch of cavil propaganda. anyway that's not the subject. it is the opposite of mein kamf, because here we support the jews!

The irony is lost on you, isn't it?

You have read Mein Kampf ???

Yes (because it's good to know your enemy, particularly one as evil as nazism, in order to identify his weak points), but that's not the point. I didn't mean that Emperor Harkonnen's post was an actual, literal quote from Mein Kampf. I wouldn't know that, anyway, since I obviously don't remember every single word from every book I've ever read and I certainly can't come up with quotes on demand...

My point was that Emperor Harkonnen was talking about the Palestinians just like Hitler was talking about the Jews. "They hate everyone who is not of their religion", "they hate our great, mighty and prosperous Christian nations", etc. Same old crap, different package.

[leo]

LOL ozey, i'm a Jew and I read it too, so?

[Emperor Harkonnen]

so what if it looks like mein kamf. I think that when you defend people who attacks jews it looks more like nazism than what I say.

I have no idea what mein kamf says, and I know little about the philosphy of nazism, so I can't say whether you are right or wrong.(I find it uninteresting in connection with for example WW2)

I think it is more like the palestinians are like hitler. they do hate other religions. don't you agree? don't you think that is a fact?

I think that you are a bit to quick to draw conclusions about what I am saying.

[Dante]

it is an endless circle.... giving them what they want wont solve anything....

[Anathema]

Well I heard that Arafat was a christian from a girl who lives in the same building as I do, she's jewish and knows far more about Israel and stuff then I do so I accepted it as truth without checking. Will check soon though.

Also, Arafat being christian would make perfect sense seeing he's not so popular among Palestinians as you would think.

[Timenn]

I'm actually quite disappointed that no one here in this debate has seen that there aren't 2 sides in this conflict. But more likely something like 7 sides.

1) The Jewish people, who suffer from terrorist attacks, and still suffer from hatred towards them. And they get no support from outside, or their government, except the comfort of hate.

2) The Palestinian people, who suffer from military actions, meant to kill terrorist, but taking down with them alot of innocent Palestinians. All the support they get is evil power hungry terrorist organisations, who promise they can bring back the land they lived in, which  is actually no longer possible. And that way they are given false hope.

3) The Jewish authorities. They are power hungry, and they use the Jewish people to support their cause, to increase their power in the middle-east. And they use them for hiding from international critics.

4) The Palestinian authorities + terrorist organisations. These have the same goals as 3) except that it is the opposite. They fill the Palestinians with hate, and they tell lies about that the all the Jews and Western countries are responsible for all their suffering.

5) Other governments, like the American one, who profit from this conflict, who keep making this war worser and worser, by only supporting one side, and not the other side.

6) The people of those countries in 5) who get false information about the real status in the Middle East (and not only there, but on everywhere there are such conflicts) and this way they are made to believe that their governments are doing the right thing.

7) People who are neutral, either because they know the situation well (some people even dedicated their lives in the study of the Middle East) or because they really don't care, or other reasons (like pacifists)

I've only seen 1) and 2) seeing really mentioned in this topic. While you can't judge one of these sides without knowing that there are more...

And to the persons who believe that Edric O is backing up the terrorists, think again...

You can't say you are so stupid that you would think he would support them. He is merely trying to give you an idea on why they are doing that, and why they are picking out those certain targets.

[GUNWOUNDS]

So stop trying to please them. Duh.

umm... you said we SHOULD please them by  giving into their demands....(such as no meddling in affairs)

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[exatreide]

who rules palestien for over 500 years? with practicly no wars in the region, no conflicts, and general piece in the area.

I tell you who...

The Turks,Take their advice in putting down rebbeblions, be merciless to those who are guilty and kind to those who are not.

Screw the british empire..Give it to the Republic of Turkey  :)

[Dante]

umm... you said we SHOULD please them by