Robert Mugabe

nemafakei · February 28, 2003

Well, what do you think? What should be done about the crisis in Zimbabwe that will almost certainlycome to a head this autumn?

Why hasn't action been taken already?

What are the possible outcomes, in people's views?

emprworm · February 28, 2003

i don't know anything about it :(

do you have a quality reference you might impart to those of us who are uninformed? ;D

nemafakei · February 28, 2003

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/africa/2000/zimbabwe/

That might give you a start.

Though I'm surprised you've never heard of the problems... It has been frequent to news stories here for months.

emprworm · February 28, 2003

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/africa/2000/zimbabwe/
That might give you a start.
Though I'm surprised you've never heard of the problems... It has been frequent to news stories here for months.

thanks. and nope, haven't heard of it. i will in 30 min, however

been keeping up to date on the Columbia crisis, though!

ordos45 · March 1, 2003

I dislike the man. He kicked white farmers off their land according to a CNN story once, and then when condemned by the US and Great Britain for it, promptly said they were racists. He also abolished his cabinent some time ago, anyone else feels he's preparing to set up a dictatorship?

DukeLeto · March 1, 2003

Certainly seems like it. But what do you expect? Most of Africa is in pretty poor shape these days...

emprworm · March 1, 2003

I dislike the man. He kicked white farmers off their land according to a CNN story once, and then when condemned by the US and Great Britain for it, promptly said they were racists. He also abolished his cabinent some time ago, anyone else feels he's preparing to set up a dictatorship?

yes yes! I remember that story now. Yes, it has come back to me. I do remember this story. Those farmers have been there for their whole lives. They are a vital part of the community and it is their homes. Some are being brutalized. ultimately it is only going to hurt the nation when they pack up and leave.

Caid Ivik · March 1, 2003

When is white one racist, he is persecuted by whole world. But when black one deals with white like Hitler with Jews (ok, he doesn't annihilate them, but now it's like in 1934), then it is ok (right to vengeance?).

ordos45 · March 1, 2003

When is white one racist, he is persecuted by whole world. But when black one deals with white like Hitler with Jews (ok, he doesn't annihilate them, but now it's like in 1934), then it is ok (right to vengeance?).

If its the whole ancestors were enslaved thing, if one looks far enough back in their geneology they'll find, a lot of times anyway, that somewhere along the line, someone in their family was enslaved.

Caid Ivik · March 1, 2003

I can say that Hungarians enslaved whole Slovak nation, and took it for 1000 years. And is that a reason to arizate their property?

nemafakei · March 1, 2003

The Zanu PF, Mugabe's party consist mainly of war veterans, to whom Mugabe has promised land. Mugabe gave all whites about a week's notice to leave Zimbabwe, before their land was confiscated, to be given to the veterans. Many other landowners lost their jobs. Those who worked for the whites were left jobless.

Now, the people who have been working the land for their whole lives, and who know how to farm it are gone, and Mugabe's supporters, most of whom know next to nothing about agriculture, hold the land, but will probably not be sowing many crops; they don't know where to start.

Next harvest, there will be very little food, and I doubt that what little there is will be retained by those who will have grown it.

Mugabe IS a dictator. The vote to re-elect him president held recently was thoroughly rigged. His power comes from Zanu PF supporters basically working as ganss of thugs - reminiscent of the SA...

Dante · March 1, 2003

The man's a black Hitler. He's worse than Saddam.

Generally I think Chirac is doing well by acting carefully and everything but inviting Mugabe to France? This takes looking the other way to an extreme! He should have been arrested there...

Warlord Ripskar · March 1, 2003

Mugabe should be shot.

He's planning to starve half the population of his country and those of surrounding countries to boot.

The 'War veterans' are usually nothing of the sort and are no more than cutthroats, crooks and crims.

This goes well beyond a few hundred white farmers when he is threatening to kill millions of people who voted against him.

His current tactic of only distriubuting food to members of Zanu PF is creating a flood of refugees and his own farming policy is one of scorched earth, not increased production.

Caid Ivik · March 3, 2003

It's a matter of time until he will turn his country to war with UK. Maybe just because of this hostility Chirac talked with him. Someones won't change. Rumsfeld was true: old Europe...

Dante · March 3, 2003

He won't war with anyone. He's too intent on destroying Zimbabwe.

Warlord Ripskar · March 3, 2003

When this came up a few months ago we put the SAS, the Paras and an RAF squadron on his border. He shut up then.

It's only flared up again because of the Cricket and France. He couldn't stand up to a British assault and he knows it, however we do have to stay friendly with the Commonwealth so if it does kick off it has to be started by him.

Sneakgab · March 15, 2003

I live in S.A so I know what I'm talking about when I post some African rules

Rules

1: All afrikaners are rascist

2: Blacks cannot be rascists

3: Most blacks hate all whites with very little reason but are not rascist (refer back to no 2)

4: A white guy and his freinds are forced to fight black guy due to constant provocations = fight = new paper headline = WHITE RASCISTS BEAT ON BLACK... IE: 4.1Newspapers always make up (r@p 4.2 things that newspapers spout is always stupod 4.3 Their is atleast one article about whites being rascist in every newspaper

5: Blacks need less qualifications to get the same job as a white (this is actually a law... it's called ''back empowerement''. Take note that it is not rascist because due to rule 2)

6: Goverment su(ks forever... (if only Mandela would run for pres again... :( :'()

7: ANC WILL be win the next elections because the only other parties are crazy parties like DP NP PAC.... parties that are rascists or want some stupid change... parties that ''boast'' of the the fact that they will never be communists because they are such (r@p parties. So really, when you vote you don't have a choice because the only real choice is the ANC... unless you want some crazy loons running you're country...

8: stupid laws with no logic behind them cannot be changed

9: Nationalistic propoganda and (r@p must be maintained (recent rule)

10: Need I go on?:D

Anyway, living in S.A, I'd appreciate a little more discussion on this matter so... ;D ;D ;D

Dunenewt · March 15, 2003

Those rules are just rubbish I can see SA going the same way as Zimbabwe

nemafakei · March 15, 2003

Those rules imply it is!

Sneakgab · March 16, 2003

Well of course most of those aren't literally rules but they are basically the socialistic ideas of S.A... most of my rules were basically a satire but I wouldn't be surprised if they were real rules (and ''black empowerement'' is a actually a law... formed to stop rascism...lol... stupid goverment. Basically they wanted more blacks to have jobs to try and get them into the market... once again from the country that boasts about being the rainbow nation)

It's also true that were a one party goverment

Fortunately however, S.A won't become like Zimbabwe because the world is watching S.A. Thank god for that, if it wasn't for the that little fact the goverment would had some mob of ''war veterans'' kill me whilst looting my house.

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