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Blind justice is famine of poor countries, which have lazy people

Let's see: there are thousands of children under 5 years of age dying of starvation every day. Please explain how exactly it is their fault. ::)

Or maybe you are just a selfish bastard, with no regard for the lives of innocents who never got a chance to work in the first place. And even if they did, you're telling me a man born in Nigeria has the same chances in life as one born in the USA? Oh please! ::)

Blind justice attacks all. Their faults are hitting their children too. As I am not responsible for that I am Slovak, because my parents gave me my nationality. I don't think all people over the world have same chances to become rich, but all can live peacefully and creatively. By terrorism they won't solve anything. We, advanced culture, should teach them way to gain such progress as we did in previous centuries, that's the best way to help them. Of course some material help is good, but it won't solve core of the problem.

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Honestly, what do you expect? Whatever you might believe, there are many people in this world who blame the desperate poverty suffered by billions on those holding the pursestrings and lining their pockets. All would like to do something about it, but so few have political power, and those that do are often easily corrupted or backmailed by the political

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I'm not saying the killing committed by terrorists is justified - it is only so in the sense of 'blind-justice' (still murder, but with some understandable but insufficient motive), but I am saying that killing committed indirectly by those with a firm grasp on pursestrings is thougroughly immoral.

which is why the government of Nigeria, who has a firm grip on the pursestrings of Nigeria, is to blame for the misery of their people.

I will say this a million times and probably only one or two of the US-haters in here will ever actually be honest enough to really listen to it:

So long as the local government of an impoverished nation is oppressive and wickedly corrupt, there is NOTHING the US can do for the people of that nation.

No matter how many $$$ the US gives to that nation, they will be intercepted by the corrupt government and those who need it will inevitably get nothing. First, the local governments must be neutralized before there is ANY HOPE whatsoever that its people will be helped. But who, exactly, among the US-haters in here would support the imperialist US toppling the Nigerian government?

Until the corrupt, oppressive NIgerian government is abolished, its people will suffer. And until more people start putting the blame of Nigeria's problems on Nigeria itself, they will continue to get away with it.

How can you expect the US to care for Nigeria, when Nigeria doesn't even care about Nigeria? Some of you people in here hate the US so much, your ability to think reasonably is clouded.

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Well said, Nema.

They did it because their children are starving, because their families are persecuted, because their countries are ruled by corrupt vassals of the West!

unbelievable. You live in a world of delusion.

Edrics statement does apply to the Palestinians and the Chechnyans. Both are structurally humiliated by opressing nations.

Now, the Israelian/Russian citicens aren't directly responsible for the treatment of the Palestinians and Chechnyans, but they are indirectly responsible. If they wished, they could vote a premier into office with less of an iron fist policy then Sharon and Putin. I think you should try to imagine what's it like being a Palestinian. Your family has been humiliated countless of times by Israelians, who barge into your village, crush your house and leave you homeless. Plus, they set up camp inside the local Mosque, where they burn the Qu'ran books and piss on the walls. Don't pretend that you wouldn't be angry as hell. In muslim cultures honour and revenge are more important then in our culture.

Of course I'm not saying that you would put on a belt of explosives and blow yourself up inside a Tel Aviv bus station all the sudden. But the Palestinians are poor and uneducated, their religion is all they have to help them through their darkest days. What the suicide bombers do is unjustifyable, but we don't live in a world of strictly pure evil and pure good.

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Earthnuker, that's saying like I hear mulla Umar. Palestinians are fully controlled by Fatah, Hamas and other such terroristic bands, which already disrupted Jordan and Libanon, not saying about it is most risking work being bus-driver in Tel-Aviv. No, now it isn't possible to see difference between peaceful and bloodlust Palestinian. Oppression is only way to stop them. Revenge isn't good thing, Jesus was still teaching us to forgive. But they seek only vengeance. Jews, led now by same fanatics, too. That's ethernal circle.

About Chechens, that's only one-sided. Russia does no larger operations now after their best leaders (Chattab, Basajev) had fallen. Little guerilla troops remained, but without real power. They are becoming terrorists in hands of Al-Kaida now.

Also both nations aren't fightning because they are jealous to western wealth. Just for power, so it isn't best pointing on them.

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I know that. Their treatment is by no means a justification for what they do. But I can understand why they do it.

If by "power" you mean independence, I'd have to agree. The Palestinians and Chechnyans don't want to be bullied around and they are right in that. Nobody in the world stands up for their rights (or has the power to do anything about it). They're on their own, and they don't have tanks and planes like the Israelians and the Russians do.

Also consider that the UN has issued resolutions that order Israel to retreat all their forces from Palestinian grounds decades ago.

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So, Israeli and Russian tanks and planes haven't fallen to their hands as manna, as they were improving technically, also they improved ruling system. Look at Palestine. Or Chechenya. They don't even know what democracy is. If they'll be independent, we'll have two new terrorist spawning countries such as Afghanistan. No nation has right to destroy any country. They should start seeking for consense. If every nation would have own country, there won't be 200 but 20 000 countries. And then face Germans, Russians or China with their population.

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"So long as the local government of an impoverished nation is oppressive and wickedly corrupt, there is NOTHING the US can do for the people of that nation"

So much for your theory of attacking the Taliban because it would free the afghans from corrupt local government.

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Taliban was attacked because it had supported Al-Kaida. USA aren't freeing countries from evil lords, but in the name of NATO cleaning world from threats.

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That's speculation. Bin Ladin family has big company, and it isn't known how much of it is linked to Al-Kaida. Also Saudi Arabia is more than just Saud dynasty. There are many people against american presence in country. Usama Bin Ladin is one of them.

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Even so there's more proof of ties between Saudi Arabia and Al Kaida then between Al Kaida and Iraq.

The day after it turened out there were no proven ties between Sadam and Al Kaida a report came out that Iraq was developping nukes. How convinient...

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Hussain and Al-Kaida aren't allies. Even Usama has said no positive words about him, also he doomed him for his lust for oil when he attacked Kuwait. But Usama is also in dissent from SA.

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I'm sorry Caid, but I'm a Slovak and a natonalist. The sepparation was

the best thing that happened in the last 10 years.

I hope I'l never see a Czech again in my whole life.

"Do riti s ÄŒesko - Slovenskom"

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When will Denmark or Sweden get Norway BACK????

NEVER!!!!

Cuz our country have grown up....

We are strong!

Thoose old things are too weak

Never Chechoslvakian rpublick of something...

Never Yougoslavia....

Why not United Nations of Europe!?!?!

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Cuz our country have grown up....

We are strong!

Thoose old things are too weak

Never Chechoslvakian rpublick of something...

Never Yougoslavia....

that was some very nice nationalism.

where's edric when you need him? heh.

Posted

Maybe they need another World War to wake them up.

Please don't start one... There is nothing wrong in being patriotic ::)

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Well said, Emprworm. ;D

hahaha. Well, Edric, I'm sure you are patriotic too.

Being called a "patriot" is an insult to me. I want nothing to do with those pathetic obsolete overgrown tribes commonly known as "nations".

I am not Romanian, I AM HUMAN!!

Freedom to Mankind, death to the nation-state!

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