six days or Restoration

[TMA_1]

lol they are very different in english acriku. Hebrew is much different than how you see it.

[Acriku]

Edric, stop your laziness :P And whatever you been smokin (oh hell naw). Anyways, if you want to say they mean the same thing in ancient hebrew, tell me how! Or atleast get some Rabbi to add to this. You can't bring something to the table if you can't wash the dishes ;)

[TMA_1]

okay the word is "dure". It can mean either circle or ball depending on the context of what something is talked about. In the hebrew it is three characters long. In the hebrew it is spelled Resh Wav dalet. It looks like an upside down L with a capital I than the greek letter Pie without one of its legs. I tried putting the symbols on this post but it didnt work.lol Take that poo poo head joe!! lol ;) ahh hehe

[Acriku]

Yes the -| sort of letter, pronounced "d". I am familiar with most of the alphabet, although it's been a while. But in the bible it is translated as circle, and being experts as they are, would take into account the context as well.

[TMA_1]

lol I'd be careful with saying that translations are tr ustable. They are often tainted with the bias of a certain person or group. I know for a fact that I translated that section of the bible with that word as "ball" or "sphere". Going along the context of the whole thing.

[Terror]

Edric O is right, everything has a beginning and an end, but smashing a country down that easily is probably not gonna happen anymore because we can see what happens over the entire world in no time and thus prepare ourselves and besides. If one country declares war to another it may get the UN on it's tail or something like that.

However, economically it is still possible and that is likely going to happen. Asia will probably be the economical center of the world in the coming century

[Caid Ivik]

Oh, and Caid Ivik, stop supporting our pathetic immoral civilization. May it crumble and fall!! In fact, it will crumble and fall, sooner or later. The wheel of history turns, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. All I have to do is wait... and enjoy. :)

The Pharaohs of Egypt ruled unchallenged for 3000 years. Then the legions of Rome came and smashed their ancient legacy to ashes. The same fate awaits our hedonistic civilization. And the sooner it comes, the better.

If Romania isn't in best situation, what should I do. But only pathetic thing is your defetism. Nothing is lost. Everything can be repaired. Pharaos of the Egypt ruled no longer than 100 years, then came a new dynasty, or raiders (Hyksos, Babylon, Greeks...), fully changing the culture. But today's culture is global and there is nothing what can destroy it. Only the end of the world. We must improve it, return to primary values. Stop the nihilism, which is destroying us. There are still millions of people, which believe we have always hope. This crisis isn't first, and we'll pass trough it.

[Edric O]

If Romania isn't in best situation, what should I do.

This has nothing to do with the insignificant country called Romania in which I happen to live. It's about our WHOLE DAMN CIVILIZATION!

Pharaos of the Egypt ruled no longer than 100 years, then came a new dynasty, or raiders (Hyksos, Babylon, Greeks...), fully changing the culture.

All the dynasties shared the same culture. Egypt never changed.

But today's culture is global and there is nothing what can destroy it.

It is bringing ITSELF down. Falling on its own. Decaying like a corpse.

Btw, you don't seem to understand. I'm not being defeatist. I'm being optimistic! The collapse of our rotten civilization is a good thing! And I intend to do everything in my power to help bring it DOWN.

Death to western culture!

[Acriku]

I've been wondering, sure a lot of things on Earth require a beginning, and some have an end, but in the big scheme of things, be it the universe, why does it have to have a beginning? Logic? Logic works here, but why does it have to work there?

[Anathema]

Cultures do not always pass by destruction- some of them gradually change into other ones, like medieval Europe to modern Europe.

[emprworm]

thank you earthnuker. i am glad someone finally brought that up. a culture is never destroyed. it merely morphs. it is impossible to have a cultural void where you have civilization. as edric tries to 'bring down' a culture, all that is happening is that the current culture is morphing into something else.

given the state of the world, it would be very presumptuous indeed to think that any current culture will 'morph' into a moral one. any morphing that happens to cultures today, IMHO will always turn into something even less moral than the one before it.

[Anathema]

a culture is never destroyed. it merely morphs.

Never is a big word. The Roman culture was destroyed utterly by barbarians, though it had been weakening for centuries already.

[emprworm]

the only real way i see to utterly destroy a culture is genocide. so long as the original population is in tact, the culture will morph.

in your example, there was a lot of bloodshed- killing culture by force through killing the people of that culutre. well i guess that would do it.

i probably should have phrased my point specifically to the context Edric was referring to, which was nonviolent.

[TMA_1]

Emprworm is right. You can destroy or even kill off the people of a nation, but cultures always adapt and survive. You can see that in the case of canaan after the hebrews took over palistine. Though eventually the canaanites were completely taken out, their religion and culture in palistine and even north to the phonecians still grew.

[Acriku]

You can take away our lives, but you'll never take, OUR CEMENT, PAVED ROADS, AND AQUADUCTS!

[TMA_1]

unless you have an "anti antiquity cemento destructor machine", or A.A.C.D.M. lol. I just happen to have it. ;)

[Terror]

LOL ;D

[Caid Ivik]

If Romania isn't in best situation, what should I do.

This has nothing to do with the insignificant country called Romania in which I happen to live. It's about our WHOLE DAMN CIVILIZATION!

Pharaos of the Egypt ruled no longer than 100 years, then came a new dynasty, or raiders (Hyksos, Babylon, Greeks...), fully changing the culture.

All the dynasties shared the same culture. Egypt never changed.

But today's culture is global and there is nothing what can destroy it.

It is bringing ITSELF down. Falling on its own. Decaying like a corpse.

Btw, you don't seem to understand. I'm not being defeatist. I'm being optimistic! The collapse of our rotten civilization is a good thing! And I intend to do everything in my power to help bring it DOWN.

Death to western culture!

Maybe Hyksos and Babylonians haven't changed it much, but in Greek era there was no sign of Ra worshipping. Culture changed. Or better, it was assimilated by other, bigger one. Such was then with Greek culture - that fallen into Roman Empire. And Rome became in 313 christian. No, the history isn't based on destruction and recreation - that's only in hinduism. Everything is being improved, assimilated, sometimes on bloody, sometimes in peaceful ways. You want to bring down the crisis, caused by bad influence of some bizzare philosophies. That's good. You'll have a chance. Capitalism will last just about 50 years more, then it'll be low on resources, and we'll have to find the sense of life once again. Todays "sweet time" will end.

[Anathema]

I think that Edric meant the consumers society with western culture. Wich sometimes does disgust me as well.

[Caid Ivik]

Western culture isn't only a band of consumers. I ment it too, but EdricO is talking about whole culture, what is quite confusing.

[Edric O]

I was talking mostly about our consumer society, as Earthnuker pointed out.

The thing is, Caid, I believe our civilization has sunk too deep in immorality. It is too late to do something about it. Look around you: porn, violence, casual sex, adultery, murder... at every corner.

We cannot redeem our culture. The only solution is a complete purge... :(

[Acriku]

The only reason some of those things haven't happened is because there was no way to distribute them. And now, there is less restraint and we can express ourselves in what we are and how we are more so now. Before, it was societally wrong, where the morals were pushed onto the children and parents. Now, we have less restraint, and the lack of chains allows us to step from the cave into life.

[Edric O]

Yes, we have much less restraint now. And it is causing us to lose our human values of morality and sink to the level of mere animals. We are losing our humanity and becoming mindless instinct-driven drones.

[Acriku]

Edric, we've had that since the beginning! The chains have been forged upon us disallowing expression of our true selves, wake up man!

[Edric O]

What chains?

And speaking of the beginning... In the beginning we were a puddle of mud (quite literraly).

If our "true selves" are immoral mindless apes, I'd rather NOT have them "expressed"...