ken124578 Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 So you believe that the univerce is created by god eh?then HOW IS GOD CREATED??
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Yes, how did God come to existance? Has he been always there? Then what is "always"? Was there an infinity of time before God created Earth?My brain hurts.You do not understand. The whole idea is to believe without proof.I do understand that (more or less). But if you can't prove it, don't point a finger at atheists when they can't prove the evolution theory. Here is a really really really sketchy timeline. The spelling and writing is bad and needs work and its still being made. But its what I have so far.Holy sh1t! The spelling is atrocious!J/K, good work ;).
Ghosty_Square Posted October 12, 2002 Author Posted October 12, 2002 But if you can't proof it, don't point a finger at atheists when they can't prove the evolution theory.Up to know I used to think science is about proving facts.
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Evolution is a theory. Theories are unproven. Evolution is thus not a fact- yet anyway, though we may never prove it.
Ghosty_Square Posted October 12, 2002 Author Posted October 12, 2002 A perfect example of his unintelligence is that he still believes in religion despite all the evidence proving to the contrary. 1-I wasn't the first to point the finger out2-You say that first there was nothing, then there was everything. Can this be called a theory? I don't think so. I would call a theory how humans come from monkeys. Not this however.
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Huh? What does that quote have to do with this?
Ghosty_Square Posted October 12, 2002 Author Posted October 12, 2002 You said I accuse you of not being able to prove evolution while religion isn't proven.I quoted some1 who said that the non-existence of religion is proven.Isn't it simple?
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Yeah but that quote was from the "Go Bush!" topic. Why did you bring that up?
Ghosty_Square Posted October 12, 2002 Author Posted October 12, 2002 Nope, it's from "the meaning of life" topic.
Anathema Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 But why did you bring up a quote of Repoman? He hasn't even replied in this thread.
Apollyon Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 these topics are useless as they never solve anything and just degenerate into ppl who believe in god saying its just faith and of course u cant beat that if the person involved doesnt want to listen. BTW the bible says god was "begotten, not made".Seems like an excuse to me...how can something come from nothing?IMO God is a by-product of a lonely mind looking for something to protect him and provide him with answers for things that he cannot explain.I also think that Atheism should be classed as a form of religion as it is a way of life in a similar way that christianity etc is. Thus Atheists "believe" there is no God which is in turn a kind of faith.
Ghosty_Square Posted October 12, 2002 Author Posted October 12, 2002 And in what do you believe Appolyon?
Apollyon Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 i believe in free beer for all =)no, im agnostic really.
Dude_Doc Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Hehe, where and how is not the real brain bugger. The 2 more bigger questions, which I read in "Universe in a Nutshell" from Stephen Hawkins, is:1. If there is a God, then why did he create the universe so long ago? Why not today? 2. Why has everything that is going to happen not already happened? How come everything is not a black questionmark?
Apollyon Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 perhaps he did create it today, along with our memories. As a "moment" is so impossibly tiny our life could just be memory.
ken124578 Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Evolution is a theory. Theories are unproven. Evolution is thus not a fact- yet anyway, though we may never prove it.We can't prove that god exists either.No don't start the "but god created jezus and he blablabla" its just some idiot from the "future" altering history.When jezus died someone moved his stone and put on an a mask (the people were stupid in those days ::) } and told some people that he "survived" and wil come back later.I have heard it all 8)j/k, no offence to the people believing in god :-X
Acriku Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 1. Humans do not come from monkeys!2. How is athiesm a form of religion? There is no established system of beliefs, no Bible or Torah or Quran, just a way of looking at life. 3. How the hell are we supposed to know what happened billions of years ago when we can't even tell what happened thousands of years ago when God supposedly made the Earth?4. Believing without proof is bad, and all it is is a hole-filling excuse for the people begging for proof of that religion. Athiest: Where is your proof?Thiest: If God gave us proof He existed, then there would be no real faith. Therefore, there is no proof and we must believe without. That is the only way to be saved.Athiest: Puh-lease.Thiest: I'm sorry you cannot comprehend the ways of God. Athiest: I'm sorry, too. Cough.
emprworm Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Seems like an excuse to me...how can something come from nothing? LOL! YOU TELL ME APOLLYON! That is what ATHEISTS believe. In fact, one atheist in particular, Alan Guth has come up with his theory of the inflationary universe which proposes 'something from nothing'. The theory is so widespread among atheistic scientists that there is talk of him getting the Nobel Prize for his stupid theory.You want to talk "something from nothing?" YOU TELL ME!!No creationist believes in junk like that. Takes more faith to believe in something from nothing than it does to believe in God. yet thats precisely what many atheists believe- most notably, the majority of all atheistic scientists and philosophers believe that.pure religious faith.
Ghosty_Square Posted October 12, 2002 Author Posted October 12, 2002 You look around you at all the thing humans have created (i 'm not saying they 're all good, in fact most of them are bad) which an animal could not have imagined. There is a huge difference between a human and the smartest animal. And then you claim all of this happened by chance. Yeah right. Why don't we behave like animals then? Sleep, eat, reproduce. Simple enough.
Acriku Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Even though it is easier to believe in a higher entity that will save us from the cold thought of dying and that's it, doesn't mean it has less faith put into it. Given the proper information, it takes a lot of faith to deny all scientific evidence that suggest otherwise.
emprworm Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 science can only measure the natural, Acriku
Acriku Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 Oh please, who is to say supernatural even exists? A bible that has been so distorted by time and human error?
ken124578 Posted October 12, 2002 Posted October 12, 2002 You look around you at all the thing humans have created (i 'm not saying they 're all good, in fact most of them are bad) which an animal could not have imagined. There is a huge difference between a human and the smartest animal. And then you claim all of this happened by chance. Yeah right. No it didn't happened by chance, this all has been evolved over millions and millions of years.
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