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[emprworm]

US would not want war with other major countries because of this little thing:

Nuclear war threat

the other countries would not want to wage war with the US because of this little thing:

Nuclear war threat.

When we complete our Star Wars laser defense system, then not even nuclear weapons can hurt us.

[VigilVirus]

Dude, that will only stop long range ballistic missiles, nuclear bombs could still be brought to US itself and the very people threatened of detonation.

Do you think anyone is willing to take that chance?

[Dante]

Do you think anyone is willing to take that chance?

There is always someone ready to do anything for their cause. Including die.

[emprworm]

the threat of a few nuclear bombs entering our country is a valid one, but by no means would it destroy us. I think you seriously over-estimate the potential of a nuclear bomb. Getting a nuclear bomb in this country would be very difficult. You might get in a few, but by no means will you be sneaking in very many.

[VigilVirus]

Still most are not willing.

But anyway, back to my main question, why do you call the people who don't agree with you communists and US-haters, emprworm?

[emprworm]

But anyway, back to my main question, why do you call the people who don't agree with you communists and US-haters, emprworm?

i didn't. people may disagree with me for a variety of reasons. It doesn't make them a US-hater. People who get mad at US patriotism, however, ARE US-haters. Thats what I call them.

Now, let me ask my question:

Why do you live in the US?

Do you love the United States of America? If so, say it. Say "I love the United States of America"

[VigilVirus]

the threat of a few nuclear bombs entering our country is a valid one, but by no means would it destroy us. I think you seriously over-estimate the potential of a nuclear bomb. Getting a nuclear bomb in this country would be very difficult. You might get in a few, but by no means will you be sneaking in very many.

One is enough. It would not be detonated, just used to manipulate. People don't want to die and the govt doesn't want its people to die.

[emprworm]

people always try to manipulate the US. it never works. there is no reason to think that would either.

[VigilVirus]

But anyway, back to my main question, why do you call the people who don't agree with you communists and US-haters, emprworm?

i didn't. people may disagree with me for a variety of reasons. It doesn't make them a US-hater. People who get mad at US patriotism, however, ARE US-haters. Thats what I call them.

Now, let me ask my question:

Why do you live in the US?

Do you love the United States of America? If so, say it. Say "I love the United States of America"

I like it here, but I find extreme patriotism to be foolish. That doesn't mean that I don't like US now, does it? Not many americans are truly patriotic, but still like to live in US.

[emprworm]

I like it here, but I find the patriotism to be foolish. That doesn't mean that I don't like US now, does it? Not many americans are truly patriotic, but still like to live in US.

patriotism simply means "love for one's country."

so you are a user then? YOu like to "use" America, but you have no love for it? That makes you a US-hater in my book. Since you take what you can from the US, yet when it comes to the nation itself, you are the first one to rise against it? That is pure US-hater.

How can you say that you "like it here" and then turn around and condemn supporting this nation? You like the "things" you get from it, but despise the nation itself. Thus, you are a US hater.

[VigilVirus]

Dude, where did you come up with all that stuff?? I never said a single bit of it. I support the US and who says I rise up against it???

I don't like the extreme patriotism that you have - one can actually call you a patriotic extremist. You only look at the good things of US, and say to me that US is the perfect country, which can defeat the rest of the world.

And stop making up stuff, like me being a US-hater. I wouldn't move here if I was.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

1 - It is very easy to get new weapons in these days, China is armed with reasonable powerful weapons.

no citizen in china owns a weapon. Scroll up and look at my weapons again. How many chinese citizens own weapons that can beat my weapons? We have 100 MILLION citizens (not counting military) that own weapons. There isn't even 100 million Chinese soldiers in all of China. 1

http://www.countryreports.org/content/china.htm

http://www.countryreports.org/content/usa.htm

Okay, my friends in holland are not anti-americans, if they were, the authorities won't do anything. Because they have a different opinion about the America doesn't make them criminals. Oh wait, you hate our Queen you must be killed! Because you are evil and will likely make a plan against our mother country!

Stealth planes

Hmmmm, I wonder why some of them got shot down in some countries. Their skin isn't hard enough against the surface-to-air missiles? Quite weird, the boats would likely be escorted with Airplanes. America isn't the only one with advanced technology you know. And how many bombs does the stealth bombers carry 100? And they need to hit the target completely, it would be quite amazing if 5 stealth bombers can destroy 1000 warships.

The boats won't make it.

And that's what the Germans thought about Normandy WW2, they had artillery, machine guns, soldiers, everything. But the quantity of the soldiers overrunned them. Oh, and wait, America can be attacked from under, above, right, left, etc etc.

The war can only be won by a boat, filled with 1 billion people.

Okay, hello there. America will suffer a economic breakdown if the other countries doesn't trade with them anymore.

You may "have" weapons in Holland, but you must be a member of a shooting club. Or whatever you call it in English. And they "are" member of a club.

America the most artillery? Maybe compared to the europian countries. Oh? And the radars are mounted on the map just like in Command and Conquer? Also heard about covert operations?

And artillery is greatly improved, it can fire farther, it is much stronger etc etc. It is still a very important part in warfare.

Keep it short, America could never win against the world with their army. Even if they manage to defend themselves, they can't invade other countries with a snap and hold it.

Hmmm, I hope America can be at all places in one time.

[emprworm]

I don't like the extreme patriotism that you have - one can actually call you a patriotic extremist. You only look at the good things of US, and say to me that US is the perfect country, which can defeat the rest of the world.

perfect country? O really? I said that? Please cite the source.

And yes, the US CAN defeat the rest of the world if it ever tried an invasion with conventional warfare. Its a hands down defeat won easily by the United States.

[Acriku]

A good idea if a terrorist organization gets involved with the war (or a very mean country) use an inside man (living in the us) to construct an EMP bomb and detonate it near a strategically-required city (that runs scenarios, builds arms, etc) and let the elec fry! Ouch :-

[VigilVirus]

I don't like the extreme patriotism that you have - one can actually call you a patriotic extremist. You only look at the good things of US, and say to me that US is the perfect country, which can defeat the rest of the world.

perfect country? O really? I said that? Please cite the source.

And yes, the US CAN defeat the rest of the world if it ever tried an invasion with conventional warfare. Its a hands down defeat won easily by the United States.

No, it can't. Stop dreaming.

US army is smaller than that of China alone, not counting others.

[Acriku]

But vigil, can you bring the whole Chinese army to the US as a whole at the same time? Therefore, the size is irrelevant, I think that's what Empr is saying.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

You do have a point there, but just like Normandy, the US won't be able to handle millions of soldiers storming into the beach in a desperate attempt.

In these days, the soldiers will get support from air and ground, sea. So if the Chinese are ever going to do a full scale invasion, it might be possible.

[VigilVirus]

Yes, but you see, US could be surrounded from all sides and it wouldn't be able to defeat all armies at once. Emprworm thinks it can.

[exatreide]

depends of it was being invaded by denmark, tialand, and canada......

[emprworm]

Okay, my friends in holland are not anti-americans, if they were, the authorities won't do anything. Because they have a different opinion about the America doesn't make them criminals. Oh wait, you hate our Queen you must be killed! Because you are evil and will likely make a plan against our mother country!

your friends are criminals if they own machine guns in holland. besides, i think you are a compulsive liar. i doubt you know any friends with machine guns. if you do, they (and you) are criminals.

Quite weird, the boats would likely be escorted with Airplanes.

lol! And those airplanes will stop missles with a range of 2000KM fired from land? LOL. Just what kind of "airplanes" do you think will be able to protect all your sitting duck battleships from missles, submarines, and other planes and other battleships?

You argued that the sheer number of soldiers would be enough. Well not on the water. On the water, the sheer number of troops means nothing.

America isn't the only one with advanced technology you know.

yea, America gives its used technology to other people. No country on earth has advanced military technology like America. Not even close. Sure, it is possible to shoot down a stealth bomber, but for every one bomber you get, you will lose 10 battleships.

And how many bombs does the stealth bombers carry 100? And they need to hit the target completely, it would be quite amazing if 5 stealth bombers can destroy 1000 warships.

lol! your landing force has to travel a LONG LONG ways on the ocean. It will take a week or more to get here. In that time, you will be pummelled with missles- not one ship will get here.

And artillery is greatly improved, it can fire farther, it is much stronger etc etc. It is still a very important part in warfare.

lol artillery has weak range. even the best artillery wont do a thing. totally useless at sea. TOTALLY USELESS

Keep it short, America could never win against the world with their army. Even if they manage to defend themselves, they can't invade other countries with a snap and hold it.

we cant invade the world and we dont want to. The LAST thing I want is for the US to have to govern a bunch of renegade disgruntled US-hating freedom fighters. THe US will never invade other countries. It would not want to have to support all those people with its taxes. It doesn't need any more land. It has enouh land and is big enough. The US would lose if it tried to invade the world. The world would lose if it tried to invade the US.

[VigilVirus]

No it wouldn't. US can't defeat the whole world - the idea is just absurd.

Think of the covert operations, genius.

[emprworm]

And that's what the Germans thought about Normandy WW2, they had artillery, machine guns, soldiers, everything. But the quantity of the soldiers overrunned them. Oh, and wait, America can be attacked from under, above, right, left, etc etc.

LOL! The germans didn't even have a missle! You compare WWII tactics to 21st century conventional warfare invasion of the US?

ROFL!

Sardaukar-Kirov logic:

And remember the dark ages? men in plate mail thought they were invincible until other people invented the crossbow.

THEREFORE

the us will be defeated by people shooting crossbows.

LOL

And yes, the US CAN defeat the rest of the world if it ever tried an invasion with conventional warfare. Its a hands down defeat won easily by the United States.

No, it can't. Stop dreaming.

US army is smaller than that of China alone, not counting others.

uhhh..yes it can. how you plan on getting all those chinese to american soil?

they will be destroyed long before they ever get here.

lol

[emprworm]

Think of the covert operations, genius.

LOL!

O PLEASE. what you going to send in 100 chinese special forces? To do what? Theres 100 MILLION armed citizens here. You have NO CHANCE at a coordinated attack. all communications will be monitored. The citizens alone will overpower any tiny little insertion team. utter failure.

[Andrew]

well no one could invade canada...we have so little people per land that the invaders would never find us, and the other half wouldnt know where canada is. ::)(joking_

[VigilVirus]

Don't count civilians as a force, they are not.

Have you thought of Bioterrorism? Especially with some kind of a genetically enhanced virus/bacteria. That is an extreme measure, but just to show, that one operation can cause a disruption of the entire country.