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[Anathema]

http://www.dune2k.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=217

correction, he wasn't asked for permission, as he had no idea there was a Dune game. I don't know if he was given any credit.

[Emperor Harkonnen]

Good work westwood! ;)

when you can get something free then get it!!

Westwood has some features of Ordos there

[Devastator_Mech]

Anyway, book says shields attract worms- as do floating engines. So Ordos isn't being very smart using those in the desert.

errr...... i live in Australia, and I've been to a book store called Dymocks, and according to the Dune books there, there's no such house as Ordos, but there's a house called Corrino.

[Anathema]

That's true. But that doesn't make it any smarter using shields in the desert ;).

[Devastator_Mech]

The shield attract worms, but so does other units. Or maybe they're trying to attract the worm then retreat when it comes up and let it finish off the enemy for them. (that a smart idea)

[Timenn]

Well, shields should drive worms crazy, and they would leave their territories, and attack the shield (any holtzman device)

but they made it less in Emperor. And that's no big point. Because it was for balancing issues

[IxianMace]

Heheh, in my new mod that will be out in like 'a few years' (j/k) ;D, those Ordos shielded units are going to be so attractive to worms it'll almost completely suck having them. :D

[Emperor Harkonnen]

NICE! ;D

That's the way it should be. and also make the harkonnen infantry be diguised Sardaukar with the sardaukar machine gun :)

[Edric O]

Hmmmm, I smell imbalance!! >:(

[Anathema]

Could you possibly give Sardaukars (and other gun infantry) continuous fire like the machine gun post? And splash damage? That would be sweet, and more realistic.

[RequiemXi]

You know, I don't think Westwood had anything to do with which houses were used in Dune. The original Dune2 wasn't made by Westwood, they just revamped and re-released it.

[ethan]

Could you possibly give Sardaukars (and other gun infantry) continuous fire like the machine gun post? And splash damage? That would be sweet, and more realistic.

i smell another imbalance !!!!!!

[Anathema]

Of course not. Light infantry is plain weak in comparison with chemical troopers. You could downgrade the damage for each "shot", but give it extremely rapid fire, so the overall damage would be greater.

[Devastator_Mech]

But the point is, don't they need to reload? In general, most SMG's(sub-machine guns) holds only about 30 rounds, so is most rifles.

[ethan]

ok, i see. but the sards would be able to take out almost anything...but they have big price.

[Anathema]

In the boox, the Sardaukars and the Fremen are significantly better then anything else (exept swordmasters I suppose) so it would only be fair to make Sardaukars really powerfull.

[Devastator_Mech]

ok, i see. but the sards would be able to take out almost anything...but they have big price.

They are not actually that expensive, its only because of their training time. Which thats forever .....

[Devastator_Mech]

Does anyone know if the Dune2's Sardaukars are as powerful as the Emperor: Battle for Dune Imperial Sardaukars?

According to what i know, Dune2 only has one type of Sardaukar .....

[Emperor Harkonnen]

There are only one type of sardaukar in Dune2 and Dune 2k.

I haven't got that far in d2, byut in d2k, they aren't really that good.

and acording to the books one sardaukar should take out 10 landsraad conscripts.

and a fremen should be able to take 5 sardaukars.

[Anathema]

In Dune2k, a Sardaukar would lose from 2 light infantrymen ::).

[Devastator_Mech]

Aren't they armed with machineguns against infantry and rockets against vehicles? According to the description in this site, they should be extremely powerful since they're armed with 2 different weapon for different purpose.

Are you sure 2 Light Infantry could kill a Sardaukar? Because it sounds impossible.

Supreme Bashar

[nampigai]

no the Harkonnen was handed Arrakis as a fief from the emperor, they didn't fight over it.

[Emperor Harkonnen]

And they didn't have the planet for generations. after the richese rule over arrakis the harkonnens got the planet, and afterwards the atreides became the rulers over the planet.

the harkonnens had it for about one generation, i think.

[Anathema]

Yes. Abulurd Harkonnen was the first Harkonnen to lead the spice harvesting, later his brother the baron Vlaimir took over. At the end of the original Dune novel the Harkonnen occupation of Arrakis ends- that's all I wil say.

[Emperor Harkonnen]

I haven't read House Atreides yet. does that book tell about the richese spice harvesting??