Current list?

[Fuzi0n]

So what is the current list of cheaters?

I think the ones which were proven to cheat were these:

En1gma69

Sigma07br

B56947b5

brianvd

Mad009max

Suppe100

and suspected to cheat

Ipfun?

Ipiphoura?

Z28tranz?

Elchkopf?

Correct me if im wrong.

[Timenn]

Well, you are wrong in all cases if you don't give the evidence.

Just attach a zip-file with all screenshots, and all links to the game-stats

It can be given already, but those topics are lost somewhere, mainly because it was removed due to flaming and accusions

[Navaros]

ipiphoura ia a career cheater. if you want proof of him cheating just do a search on these boards under his nicks, you'll find tons. (also search under "asjo" because there are stats on this board) proving he cheated with that nick too)

[Timenn]

I don't want to search for all topics, where most of them are only accusions without evidence. It's time you going to give evidence. Instead of accusions and flamings

[Fuzi0n]

the confirmed cheaters were already proven to be cheaters and like you said the evidence was lost due to the fact that the thread was closed.

[Navaros]

oh my goodness Fuz is right!

See, this is the problem with "Gob's Dungeon". When Gob *closes* threads, at least the evidence of cheating is preserved. With "Gob's Dungeon", there is no way to preserve proof of cheaters because all the evidence is inaccessbile to us, the online Emperor players. I urge Gob and all Mods to please just *close* threads in the Emperor Forum rather than deleting them or moving them to Gob's Dungeon.

[Timenn]

Well the only reason i saw this is because i notice en1gma69 beat b56947b5 4 or 5 times. They have the same ip, and he use his own nick to push himself up the ladder. If anyone know this guy tell him to page me online, or im me here to explain this if its wrong.

En1gma69 [the grim reaper] Result: Won

Points: 293

Record: 13/0/0

Side: Harkonnen

Units Killed/Bought/Left: 12/123/107

Buildings Killed/Bought/Left: 0/16/16

Infantry Killed/Bought/Left: 8/80/65

Planes Killed/Bought/Left: 2/9/9

Saw Completion: Yes

IP: 240.116.1X.XXX

b56947b5 [zeus ruler] Result: Lost

Points: 232

Record: 27/17/0

Side: Harkonnen

Units Killed/Bought/Left: 205/242/0

Buildings Killed/Bought/Left: 0/16/5

Infantry Killed/Bought/Left: 126/112/0

Planes Killed/Bought/Left: 0/15/0

Saw Completion: Yes

IP: 240.116.1X.XXX

All findings are from qm ladder, i would link it but dont know how.

There's more...

brianvd [kilers] Result: Lost

Points: 60

Record: 2/1/0

Side: Harkonnen

Units Killed/Bought/Left: 316/415/12

Buildings Killed/Bought/Left: 0/26/0

Infantry Killed/Bought/Left: 187/282/0

Planes Killed/Bought/Left: 27/18/8

Saw Completion: Yes

IP: 240.116.1X.XXX

http://games2.westwood.com/emperorgamelogs/86701425.html

en1gma69 [the grim reaper] Result: Won

Points: 323

Record: 15/0/0

Side: Harkonnen

Units Killed/Bought/Left: 83/86/40

Buildings Killed/Bought/Left: 6/10/10

Infantry Killed/Bought/Left: 70/43/18

Planes Killed/Bought/Left: 2/6/6

Saw Completion: Yes

IP: 240.116.1X.XXX

http://games2.westwood.com/emperorgamelogs/87203999.html

b56947b5 [zeus ruler] Result: Lost

Points: 232

Record: 27/17/0

Side: Harkonnen

Units Killed/Bought/Left: 205/242/0

Buildings Killed/Bought/Left: 0/16/5

Infantry Killed/Bought/Left: 126/112/0

Planes Killed/Bought/Left: 0/15/0

Saw Completion: Yes

IP: 240.116.1X.XXX

http://games2.westwood.com/emperorgamelogs/87303452.html

Aug 12, 02 en1gma69 (430 pts) Defeats b56947b5 (232 pts) 87303452

Aug 12, 02 en1gma69 (412 pts) Defeats b56947b5 (250 pts) 87301895

Aug 12, 02 en1gma69 (391 pts) Defeats b56947b5 (271 pts) 87301333

Aug 12, 02 en1gma69 (365 pts) Defeats b56947b5 (297 pts) 87299855

Aug 10, 02 en1gma69 (274 pts) Plays b56947b5 (295 pts) 87132855

Aug 5, 02 en1gma69 (247 pts) Defeats brianvd (60 pts) 86701425

http://games2.westwood.com/emperorX_ladder/DisplayPlayer.php3?PLAYER=En1gma69

This was the only thing I could find there. So it isn't enough to proove them all

And you make it that a thread goes to the dungeon. There is a reason why it's moved to there

[Fuzi0n]

i think sigma dc'ed ace so ace if you could put that ss up again, thankx.

[DjCiD]

yeah thats the problem.... a post comes and provves a multi -nick or a dc and it stays for a while, if its lucky and stays falme free then we can search for that topic later.... but when we try and compile all the list into one or justask a question like Fuz did, we all get whipped and tortured, while reminded not to pot with out evidence ;D well then i ask for a mods help in compiling all these lost, locked, deleted, or whatever happened to them (fell down a manhole into the dungeon ;D) threads into one... make it only readable by us members and posted in by gob. we post proof then he can edit and move it there... or something of that nature.

heps us keep them all together rather than beat us with the *MUST HAVE PROOF WHIP* when we try to in a thread (eewwww... is that fresh blood on the whip?!) :P ;D

[SurlyPIG]

Here's the thread that contains everything about sigma07br/mad009max, and one you hadn't listed; suppe100.

http://www.dune2k.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=5740

[nemafakei]

In general, things get moved to the dungeon becausre they contain unsuitable material, while closed threads are merely theads which have outlived their usefulness, or are irrecoverably on the brink of descending into chaos.

[ken124578]

was brianvd in the clan [iMP]?

sorry, i'm not up to date...yet :-[

[DjCiD]

descending into chaos

is that what the trip in to the dungeon is like?!

sound like a trip to my inlaws :O ;D

[Fuzi0n]

We'll need this topic for the winners list.

[Frodo_I]

oh my goodness Fuz is right!

See, this is the problem with "Gob's Dungeon". When Gob *closes* threads, at least the evidence of cheating is preserved. With "Gob's Dungeon", there is no way to preserve proof of cheaters because all the evidence is inaccessbile to us, the online Emperor players. I urge Gob and all Mods to please just *close* threads in the Emperor Forum rather than deleting them or moving them to Gob's Dungeon.

Thats why at westwoodexposed we have a database. everything goes to the same place, all info is preserved, and it's gonna be a web page when we get enough names

[DjCiD]

everything goes to the same place, all info is preserved

I think thats what they do in the Dungeon... no thread is ever deleted they are all just stored down there waiting... getting pumped full of MSG and embalming fluid.... helps with the preservation :P ;D Now if someone had the keys then they could go around cell to cell... errr umm i mean post to post gathering the needed info to post in the 'Current List'.

[HBomb54]

I would like to know what is a cheater for you.

Have a emperor day !

:-

[DjCiD]

not limited to but includes ppl that (oh and this is just my opinion on the matter)

Air drone cheat (bug of waypointing unit in the black zone)

Multi nick cheating

Fake clan pushing

DC cheating

Wash game cheating (this usally only happens in 2v2 BC games tho)